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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Wow. Another conviction against a KMT elected official. Except, the Legislative Yuan will stand by and not even censure their legislator. Imagine the furor they would raise were it a member of the MINORITY party, the DPP?

    Here is the article.
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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    FIVE KMT legislator's have had their victories annulled and what is the KMT tying to do? CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW THEM TO KEEP THEIR POSTS INDEFINATELY.

    The KMT once again proving that they are the most corrupt political party in the democratic world.

    article here
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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Except that the U.S. is not a democratic nation, it is a polyarchy,
    A polyarchy is a democracy read your own link.

    and this is how it wishes to fashion the other nations it invades. People are given the incidental freedom to vote every few years, but the candidates are selected by the elites in the country, and those elected have almost complete power.
    No candidates are selected by the people through primaries.

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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by jin1776 View Post
    A polyarchy is a democracy read your own link.
    Not necessarily. Re-read the link.

    A polyarchy strictly states that the individual's power is limited to voting abilities. Even though people have the right to popular protest, the government isn't obligated to listen. Thus, you elect people, and your job is done. That is the cornerstone of a polyarchy.

    Democracy in a strict sense is people voting everytime a major issue comes up, but this is not the case here. Also, one vote does not translate well in a Presidential election, given the electoral college.

    Quote Originally Posted by jin1776 View Post
    No candidates are selected by the people through primaries.
    And the candidates in the primaries are brought forth by whom? The rich elites. You need money to be a successful candidate.
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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Once again, the Taipei Times is reporting the news that the pan-Blue China Post ignores.

    Here is the press release from FIDH.




    You may hate the Taipei Times because it is green, but you have no justification for your claims against it. At least it reports the news. Three days in a row, it has ACCURATELY reproted news about concern into the violence of the police in Taipei earlier this month. In all three cases, the KMT censors prevented its publication in the China Post.
    Taipei times is utterly biased and commonly full of lies.
    It blows everything out of proportion for it's own purposes so as to spread proindependence propaganda to western readers.
    Accurately, funny how you've not been able to share a single video showing this "brutallity".

    Yeah control yuan launched an investigation, care to show a follow up on the conclusion of that investigation?
    Of course, taipei times will not be reporting anything on that.
    I've already showed videos of the alleged "brutality" spin it all you want lu.

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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Now, even the CONTROL YUAN is going to launch an investigation into the alleged abuses of police authority in Taipei earlier this month. While not exactly independent, it is significant. Try and deny THAT!

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    How is it significant?
    Also, what has been the conclusion of these investigations lu?
    Funny how you don't follow up on anything except for continuous allegations.

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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Wow. Another conviction against a KMT elected official. Except, the Legislative Yuan will stand by and not even censure their legislator. Imagine the furor they would raise were it a member of the MINORITY party, the DPP?

    Here is the article.
    Do you even read your own article? Where is it shown that the elected official in question was convicted? Allegations, and then a guilt by association to his father being found guilty of vote buying - typical of the taipei times.
    Desperate

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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    FIVE KMT legislator's have had their victories annulled and what is the KMT tying to do? CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW THEM TO KEEP THEIR POSTS INDEFINATELY.

    The KMT once again proving that they are the most corrupt political party in the democratic world.

    article here
    Further allegations by the DPP, reported by the taipei times as factual.
    The whole story is nothing even close to this.
    And what the hell does this have anything whatsoever to do with the allegations of police brutality?
    Seems you're not making a very good case for yourself here other than making various allegations against the KMT and then lump them all together as factual so as to make some form of legitimate complaint that there was a conspiracy with the government and the police to attack "peaceful" protesters.
    Videos speak for themselves and after what? 2 weeks? You still haven't been able to show any objective source to support your allegations. That you have to derail your own thread shows just how desperate you are.

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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    Taipei times is utterly biased and commonly full of lies.
    It blows everything out of proportion for it's own purposes so as to spread proindependence propaganda to western readers.
    Accurately, funny how you've not been able to share a single video showing this "brutallity".
    Except that I have provided links to the organizations themselves making the calls for investigations. The problem with the China Post is that they ignore most news that makes the Blues look bad. They didn't carry the international calls for an investigation or even the news that the Control Yuan would order an investigation. THey also didn't report that FIVE (count them, FIVE) KMT legislators have had their elections anulled and that the KMT is trying to change the law so they can keep their seats. You have not provided any evidence that the Taipei Times is not telling the truth - we have only your claims to back it up.

    As for finding video, I have a life - unlike some people on here - and thus don't have the time to spend looking for videos or pictures. I only spend a few minutes online each day.

    Yeah control yuan launched an investigation, care to show a follow up on the conclusion of that investigation?
    Of course, taipei times will not be reporting anything on that.
    I've already showed videos of the alleged "brutality" spin it all you want lu.
    We shall see when the investigation is over - unless, of course, the Blues on the committee (they are the majority in the COntrol Yuan) falsify their findings or simply not make a report because it will implicate the police and pan-Blue officials sanctioning of violence.
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    Re: Freedom House calls for investigation

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    How is it significant?
    Also, what has been the conclusion of these investigations lu?
    Funny how you don't follow up on anything except for continuous allegations.
    There HAVEN'T been any investigations, yet.
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