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Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

winston53660 said:
Why should she explain herself to you after your actions yesterday?
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Ummm....
I clearly stated --- in the post that you responded to --- that if she didn't want to explain her posiiton, that was fine.

However... after yeterday it seems like YOU should be be all over her, trying to get her to explain herself.
 
Goobieman said:
Well, if you dont want to explain your posiiton, thatt's fine.

I do, however, believe that, given that you admit that you have no ides where the 'progress' is going, and therefore cannot with any authority say that is it not actually a regression, your position is based on your preconceptions rather than any sort of supportable conclusion.
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I already did explain my position. You disagree. I'm ok with that. Maybe you should try to find your peace with it, because I'm done being engaged on the subject. If you really want to have discussions you wouldn't jack with people like you did yesterday. I've added you to the short list of people that I just ignore because they add no value to the discussion.
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Kayleigh Katz said:
I already did explain my position. You disagree.
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I only disagree in the context that what you said somehow explains how you reached your conclusion.
 
Navy Pride said:
Bottom line is the people that have a difference of opinion from those on the left are not homophones or bigots and for the left wingers to say they are only hurts their cause and the people that went into those churches and disrupted the services should be put away for a long time..........
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When I hear a coherent/rational argument for why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed I will give it full consideration. I've never heard one that didn't sound homophobic or bigoted though. :(

And I'm hardly a leftist, I get beat up by them for not hating Bush, being a ruthless capitalist, and thinking national security is pretty important stuff.

So c'mon, NP, let's have us a chat, why shouldn't gay marriage be allowed?
 
Goobieman said:
Ummm....
I clearly stated --- in the post that you responded to --- that if she didn't want to explain her posiiton, that was fine.

However... after yeterday it seems like YOU should be be all over her, trying to get her to explain herself.
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She already did explain herself.
 
Navy Pride said:
Bottom line is the people that have a difference of opinion from those on the left are not homophones or bigots and for the left wingers to say they are only hurts their cause and the people that went into those churches and disrupted the services should be put away for a long time..........
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I agree with you on one level and disagree on another.

I do not support people going into churches and protesting by disrupting services. There are better ways to protest.

However, I disagree with your other point. I don't think it ever helps a cause to turn a blind's eye to hatred and discrimination....and face it....whenever you say that anyone is not entitled to the same rights as every other person, you are engaging in hatred and discrimination.
 
winston53660 said:
She already did explain herself.
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Yes... and what did I say about that?
I only disagree in the context that what she said somehow explains how she reached her conclusion.
 
disneydude said:
and face it....whenever you say that anyone is not entitled to the same rights as every other person, you are engaging in hatred and discrimination.
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A statement you admit you cannot in any way support -- and yet continue to hold.
 
disneydude said:
I don't think it ever helps a cause to turn a blind's eye to hatred and discrimination....and face it....whenever you say that anyone is not entitled to the same rights as every other person, you are engaging in hatred and discrimination.
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So, you're fine with group marriage, polygamy, siblings marrying, etc.?
 
Harshaw said:
So, you're fine with group marriage, polygamy, siblings marrying, etc.?
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If he isnt, then it MUST be because he hates and fears.
 
Harshaw said:
So, you're fine with group marriage, polygamy, siblings marrying, etc.?
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why not? Sure as hell isn't going to affect me and mine any. Who other people sign a contract with is pretty goddamn irrelevant in my, and most people's, life. Is it somehow relevant in yours?
 
rivrrat said:
why not? Sure as hell isn't going to affect me and mine any. Who other people sign a contract with is pretty goddamn irrelevant in my, and most people's, life. Is it somehow relevant in yours?
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I didn't say what I thought about it all. I'm just taking the argument out as far as it can go, to see where people think the line should be drawn, and why.
 
rivrrat said:
Dude... you need to do some more research, seriously. Yes, anal sex occurs in animals other than humans. Hell, dolphins have sex with one anothers BLOWHOLE for christ's sake.
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What a silly ignorant.

How far your fanatiscism will guide you to spread out more lies?

look the furher animals have gone is to have oral sex and rubing their penis in the body of the other animal, but only humans commit the pervert action of anal sex, there is no other species which does such dirty sex.

Look at the dogs, two male dogs can lick their penis one to another and even drink the sperm, but such is animals doing their thing, the same dogs will also eat the duck's sh*t in the park near the lake and do similar things.

So, you are comparing yourself to beasts, you lick the asshole of another man and eat his sh*t, go ahead, such will cause you to get hepatitis and you know it, but you won't care, you are against society, you want to destroy society destroying yourself as the first target. Your hands will carry the contagious disease but such is what you want, destruction of society, you will work as a waiter and customers of the restaurant will be exposed to such disease because your homosexuaily and dirty sex. That is how low you are becoming, eating doo-doo...like the beasts do...and trying to mess other people's health.

Do you know what? Hell with your attempts to destroy society, your actions are dirty and perverse, nothing good comes from homosexuality and you know it.

Get help, recognize that your behaviours are against humanity, you have evaded to answer more points from my posting because you have nothing in favor to demonstrate that homosexuality is something positive in society and in our species.
 
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Harshaw said:
I didn't say what I thought about it all. I'm just taking the argument out as far as it can go, to see where people think the line should be drawn, and why...
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... because if the argument is that you cannot discriminate against connsenting adults and deny them the right to marry based on race, creed, color, gender or sexual orientation -- there can be no line.
 
Harshaw said:
I didn't say what I thought about it all. I'm just taking the argument out as far as it can go, to see where people think the line should be drawn, and why.
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There should be no line.
In the realm of government marriage should not exist.
 
conquer said:
What a silly ignorant.

How far your fanatiscism will guide you to spread out more lies?

look the furher animals have gone is to have oral sex and rubing their penis in the body of the other animal, but only humans commit the pervert action of anal sex, there is no other species which does such dirty sex.

Look at the dogs, two male dogs can lick their penis one to another and even drink the sperm, but such is animals doing their thing, the same dogs will also eat the duck's sh*t in the park near the lake and do similar things.

So, you are comparing yourself to beasts, you lick the asshole of another man and eat his sh*t, go ahead, such will cause you to get hepatitis and you know it, but you won't care, you are against society, you want to destroy society destroying yourself as the first target. Your hands will carry the contagious disease but such is what you want, destruction of society, you will work as a waiter and customers of the restaurant will be exposed to such disease because your homosexuaily and dirty sex. That is how low you are becoming, eating doo-doo...like the beasts do...and trying to mess other people's health.

Do you know what? Hell with your attempts to destroy society, your actions are dirty and perverse, nothing good comes from homosexuality and you know it.

Get help, recognize that your behaviours are against humanity, you have evaded to answer more points from my posting because you have nothing in favor to demonstrate that homosexuality is something positive in society and in our species.
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So are you suggesting that homosexuality should be illegal?

BTW, from your vivid explanations you have spent way too much time alome thinking about people licking assholes and eating ****. You are thinking of a little experimentation aren't you?
 
conquer said:
Show them. You are talking by your own.
Check with your spouse before you keep writing nonsenses.
Homosexuality is not a solution for a growing human population but an illegal drug prescribed by drug mafias to create deformed and ignorant societies easy to be manipulated. You are a good specimen of how good they work and how bad is their influence.
We must identify and catalogue the deseases with plain definitions. By the way, we humans are different than the rest of species by our reasoning, we cannot act in base of our instincts alone like the beasts do. Besides, there is not a single example of beasts having anal sexual intercourse, only humans do such perversion which is against the body's integrity.
Even so, if you want to argue that the beasts also show homosexual behaviours, please tell me which one of the beasts you want to be compared with.
Oh yeah? The Constitution was made by "the people" not by the judges, their decision is void because they have no power to change the Constitution, and by votes -a constitutional right- gay marriage is not legally allowed. Period.
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Your statements are so inane and ill informed it’s laughable. Can you honestly prove every parent of a homosexual child is ashamed of them? As for your condescension about checking with my spouse; I know exactly what she thinks about these issues because we communicate about many issues in this world. Calling me a specimen of some crazed theory about drug mafias and their influence with homosexuality on society is just about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. The Constitution is by the people but also protects people from being tyrannized by the majority. Just because an opinion is popular it doesn’t make it right when it takes rights away from a minority and California’s Supreme Court has elevated homosexuality to the same protection as gender and race.
 
conquer said:
What a silly ignorant.
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Yes, you're pretty amusing.

How far your fanatiscism will guide you to spread out more lies?
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You're the only fanatic here.

look the furher animals have gone is to have oral sex and rubing their penis in the body of the other animal, but only humans commit the pervert action of anal sex, there is no other species which does such dirty sex.
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You fail...

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So, you are comparing yourself to beasts, you lick the asshole of another man and eat his sh*t, go ahead, such will cause you to get hepatitis and you know it, but you won't care, you are against society, you want to destroy society destroying yourself as the first target. Your hands will carry the contagious disease but such is what you want, destruction of society, you will work as a waiter and customers of the restaurant will be exposed to such disease because your homosexuaily and dirty sex. That is how low you are becoming, eating doo-doo...like the beasts do...and trying to mess other people's health.
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Human beings are beasts. We are animals. Why do you think gays want to destroy society? Did you ever stop to think that maybe they just want to be happy? Why do you care if they get sick or injure themselves in the process?

Do you know what? Hell with your attempts to destroy society, your actions are dirty and perverse, nothing good comes from homosexuality and you know it.
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Happiness comes from homosexuality. Cute try though.

Get help, recognize that your behaviours are against humanity, you have evaded to answer more points from my posting because you have nothing in favor to demonstrate that homosexuality is something positive in society and in our species.
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Please explain how homosexuality is a behavior against humanity, whatever that means.
 
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