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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    This situation doesn't change the fact that it's bad government and should be changed.
    I agree, but since we are a nation that makes by the people or the courst, who do you think we help gays? The people or the courts.

    Hence why I said before, the government is the way.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    How about we go to the opposite end of the spectrum, are you ok with a man and woman getting married by some guy on the street?

    And if not, how is that different than the justice of the peace?
    No ****. *I* can officiate marriages. It really doesn't take much more than a damn signature and fee.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Resorting to name calling?
    Must be getting desperate.
    A bar stool is consenting as much as it can.
    Who says marriage is between consenting adults?
    A bar stool cannot give or take away consent. Therefore it cannot consent. IF you don't understand that I can't help you.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Marriage is between Consenting adults.
    Not exclusively. You can have sex with anyone who consents (barring underage since they are considered unable to consent intelligently), but that does not mean you cannot have sex with a dildo, or stool for that matter, even though it can't consent.

    The word consent is used to distinguish the idea of doing something to someone against their will. Consent-rule doesn't apply with inanimate objects in really any law.

    How can an inanimate object give consent?
    It doesn't matter.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I agree, but since we are a nation that makes by the people or the courst, who do you think we help gays? The people or the courts.

    Hence why I said before, the government is the way.
    By my opinion, gays don't need help. It's not illegal for them to marry. That is to say they can find whatever competent authority they deem and become married. Live as married, claim they are married and go in public as married and not be arrested. (unlike the racial laws of the past where a person could be jailed just for being married) Any legalities of the union can be handled in an attorney's office in a couple of hours. I don't know about others but I don't need a governmental authority to put it's blessing on my marriage to make it valid. It's a matter between me, my partner and our God. If same sex couples would admit the reality that government should step out of all marriages instead of into theirs, we could get this situation back on the right path.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    A bar stool cannot give or take away consent. Therefore it cannot consent. IF you don't understand that I can't help you.
    So would sex with a dildo be rape, since it can't consent?
    You miss the point, or are intentionally dodging it.
    You have decided that the CITIZEN can't marry the bar stool because it can't consent. That is YOUR judgment. Your decision. You would take away that person's right to freely do what he wants and receive the same benefits as any other married person.
    That is the same as the majority have done in CA.
    That is the reason government involvement in marriage needed to be abolished and not expanded.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    He expected you to support your claims, and laughed at you when you said 'Oh yeah? Well disprove me then!!!"

    Good for him!

    You cannot support your claim and you know it.

    you will learn that when the leftest here cannot support their arguments and attempt to shift the subject or just make specious arguments and you call them on it they engage in the childish "shuffle" game. Got to where they would not even try to discuss an issue, just try to shut it down with this nonsense. That's why I no longer participate here and rather found a forum where there is adult discourse. I check in every once and a while and to my amusment I am stil the stuff of legend or rather myth.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger View Post
    you will learn that when the leftest here cannot support their arguments and attempt to shift the subject or just make specious arguments and you call them on it they engage in the childish "shuffle" game. Got to where they would not even try to discuss an issue, just try to shut it down with this nonsense. That's why I no longer participate here and rather found a forum where there is adult discourse. I check in every once and a while and to my amusment I am stil the stuff of legend or rather myth.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger View Post
    you will learn that when the leftest here cannot support their arguments and attempt to shift the subject or just make specious arguments and you call them on it they engage in the childish "shuffle" game. Got to where they would not even try to discuss an issue, just try to shut it down with this nonsense. That's why I no longer participate here and rather found a forum where there is adult discourse. I check in every once and a while and to my amusment I am stil the stuff of legend or rather myth.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

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