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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Are you fine with providing the same benefits to a woman and her lawfully wedded barstool as to two humans or to Man and his lawfully wedded doberman.

    If a man is married to three wives does he get 3 times the benefits?
    I'am not answering on disney dudes behalf but because I answered similarly I'll also adress it in my perspective.

    I honestly don't believe married couples should be rewarded special financial benefits just for being married. It's not fair to single people. Love wasn't meant for everyone they shouldn't have to pay more just for that.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    How about we go to the opposite end of the spectrum, are you ok with a man and woman getting married by some guy on the street?

    And if not, how is that different than the justice of the peace?
    I am okay with all people marrying whom they what by whatever authority they choose. I believe that the government's acknowledgment of marriage in ANY form is a violation of the 1st amendment. (specifically separation of church and state)
    Government should step out, abolish marriage licenses, and let people be free to do what they what.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I think consenting individuals are a little different than a man and a barstool.
    Why is that?
    Now you are making a judgment on an individual based on what you think is the right thing to do. Isn't that the same as the supporters of Prop 8?

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Why is that?
    Now you are making a judgment on an individual based on what you think is the right thing to do. Isn't that the same as the supporters of Prop 8?
    It's not a judgment. How does a barstool consent? Does it say "I wood?"

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I am okay with all people marrying whom they what by whatever authority they choose. I believe that the government's acknowledgment of marriage in ANY form is a violation of the 1st amendment. (specifically separation of church and state)
    Government should step out, abolish marriage licenses, and let people be free to do what they what.

    In that I agree, however, let's take a look at the likelyhood of that happening anytime soon........zilch.

    So since the government won't step out of it, the only other option is to allow gay marriage.

    I would be 100% agreement with the government getting the hell out of marriage, but the simple fact is they won't, so gays will fight for the same rights of marriage.

    Here is my question, if gay marriage is made legal and since the religious don't agree with everything the state makes legal, why would it matter to the religious if gay marriage is made legal?

    Prostitution is legal in some states with a license, did that affect the religious? NO. So why would gay marriage being legal affect them? Answer? It wouldn't.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Why is that?
    Now you are making a judgment on an individual based on what you think is the right thing to do. Isn't that the same as the supporters of Prop 8?
    In his defense, inanimate objects don't have incomes so I don't think matters anyway.
    Last edited by Unrein; 11-15-08 at 01:24 AM.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by giggster11 View Post
    It's not a judgment. How does a barstool consent? Does it say "I wood?"

    It's an inanimate object, it can neither consent, nor deny. However it is a citizen that is in love with it. Individual rights, correct?

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post

    However it is a citizen that is in love with it. Individual rights, correct?
    Since when is a barstool a citizen?

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    In his defence, inanimate objects don't have incomes so I don't think matters anyway.
    It does to the citizen. Shouldn't he receive the tax break of being married and have an extra dependent to claim? Furniture polish is expensive!

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Since when is a barstool a citizen?
    The person married to it is.

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