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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz View Post
    I dunno. What are turtles evolving toward? How about giraffes? If you understand the nature of evolution this isn't a hard concept.
    You seem to think homosexuality is progress/evolution is progress towards something -- so, what?

    I mean, how can you think the 'progress' is 'good' if you dont have any idea where it is going?
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by giggster11 View Post
    You speak for all parents? I know plenty of people who are proud of their children that are gay.
    Show them. You are talking by your own.

    I'm about to become a parent and if my child/ren are gay then I won't have a care in the world that they are other than there are people like you out there who seem them as bad people.
    Check with your spouse before you keep writing nonsenses.

    I don't think we have to worry about the lack of human beings in the world due to the "proliferation" of homosexuals. 6 billion and growing seems more of a scourge on this planet than homosexuality.
    Homosexuality is not a solution for a growing human population but an illegal drug prescribed by drug mafias to create deformed and ignorant societies easy to be manipulated. You are a good specimen of how good they work and how bad is their influence.

    Homosexuality doesn't go against nature. A number of species practice it. Argue against that why don't you? Calling it a disease is just plain ignorance which is something you seem to have and can't help either.
    We must identify and catalogue the deseases with plain definitions. By the way, we humans are different than the rest of species by our reasoning, we cannot act in base of our instincts alone like the beasts do. Besides, there is not a single example of beasts having anal sexual intercourse, only humans do such perversion which is against the body's integrity.

    Even so, if you want to argue that the beasts also show homosexual behaviours, please tell me which one of the beasts you want to be compared with.

    The CA Supreme Court found that same sex marriage is a Constitutional right. It's not a right that was made up. It's always been there, just not practiced. That's why states had to come up with laws to ban same sex marriage.
    Oh yeah? The Constitution was made by "the people" not by the judges, their decision is void because they have no power to change the Constitution, and by votes -a constitutional right- gay marriage is not legally allowed. Period.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You seem to think homosexuality is progress/evolution is progress towards something -- so, what?

    I mean, how can you think the 'progress' is 'good' if you dont have any idea where it is going?
    No, YOU seem to think it MUST be TOWARD something. I don't, I understand how evolution works. I didn't say I thought it was "good" I said that "good" is subjective and we probably wouldn't agree on any given definition of "good".

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz View Post
    No, YOU seem to think it MUST be TOWARD something. I don't, I understand how evolution works. I didn't say I thought it was "good" I said that "good" is subjective and we probably wouldn't agree on any given definition of "good".
    The how do you know it is a cultural progression rather than a cultural regression?

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The how do you know it is a cultural progression rather than a cultural regression?
    Call it whatever you like.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz View Post
    Call it whatever you like.
    YOU called it progress. How do you know its not regress?

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    YOU called it progress. How do you know its not regress?
    Do you read everything I write or just whatever selective little piece you can reply to in order to have something to "call me on"?

    I've answered this. Scroll back, I'll not answer the same things over and over.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz View Post
    I've answered this. Scroll back, I'll not answer the same things over and over.
    All I've seen is you argue that 'you dont know where it s going'.
    But, you -still- choose to use the word 'progress'.

    The term you choose to use, progress, carries a positive connotation, as in 'positive change'.

    How can you use that word when you admit you cannot tell if it as acutally a regression?

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    All I've seen is you argue that 'you dont know where it s going'.
    But, you -still- choose to use the word 'progress'.

    The term you choose to use, progress, carries a positive connotation, as in 'positive change'.

    How can you use that word when you admit you cannot tell if it as acutally a regression?
    I already said I think it's cyclic. And I can't help what connotations you want to apply to words. You're perfectly free to choose any terms you feel are more descriptive.

    And if I do happen to use a word in a positive way where gay sex is concerned maybe it's because I enjoy it.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz View Post
    I already said I think it's cyclic. And I can't help what connotations you want to apply to words. You're perfectly free to choose any terms you feel are more descriptive.
    So, you see it progress (rather than regress), even though you have no idea where it is leading.

    Sounds like a statement based on a preconception rather than any supportable rationale.

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