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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I would disagree.[ Such a system provides no protection to the rights of the minority, because everything becomes subject to the will of the majority.
    You can disagree all you want - that doesnt mean you're right.
    You used the term "some". Its impossible to argue that a 50%+1 system doesnt provide "some" protection.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You can disagree all you want - that doesnt mean you're right.
    You used the term "some". Its impossible to argue that a 50%+1 system doesnt provide "some" protection.
    Explain how you believe it provides any protection at all for the Constitutional rights of those in the minority.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Anyone who looks at their ballot and votes yes on a proposition that begins with the heading "eliminates the right..." ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    THen what does it mean when you speak five?
    that you are seriously conflicted, yea even constipated, mentally, and need a virtual laxative....
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    Anyone who looks at their ballot and votes yes on a proposition that begins with the heading "eliminates the right..." ought to be ashamed of themselves.
    Even more ironic, is that Democrats in California are the ones responsible for the passage of the Amendment.

    Minorities, with a history of discrimination, voted in large numbers to write discrimination into the Constitution. That is truly sad.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    There are many Christians that wouldn't mind living in a theocracy, as long as it was Christianity calling the shots.
    you mean their version of christianity...right?
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Explain how you believe it provides any protection at all for the Constitutional rights of those in the minority.
    40% of the people are not sufficient to change the constitution.
    45% of the people...
    49% of the people...
    50% of the people...

    You;re using terms like "any" and "some".
    This means your position isnt tenable.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    40% of the people are not sufficient to change the constitution.
    45% of the people...
    49% of the people...
    50% of the people...

    You;re using terms like "any" and "some".
    This means your position isnt tenable.
    You still didn't answer the question. The question is, how does a system that simply requires a 50% +1 vote provide any protection to those who are in the 50%-1 minority?

    The point being, a Constitution is suppose to protect rights that are determined to be fundamental. A Constitution is useless if fundamental rights are subject to the whim or tyranny of the majority.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    40% of the people are not sufficient to change the constitution.
    45% of the people...
    49% of the people...
    50% of the people...

    You;re using terms like "any" and "some".
    This means your position isnt tenable.
    I agree with you about the 50+1

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You still didn't answer the question.
    Yes, I did, as you used the term 'any'.

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