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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The left is famous for only caring about the rights they like.
    That's no different than not caring about gay rights when you arent gay.
    That's true.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I doubt it. Americans may be slow to evolve, but eventually they get it right.

    America has a history of treating blacks and other racial minorities and women as second class citizens. Eventually we have come around. Today, America treats gays as second class citizens. Its just a matter of time, whether you like it or not.

    If that is so how do you explain that more and more states are adopting constitutional amendments banning gay marriage?
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    I cited four Supreme Court cases which directly contradict your idiotic statement that Equal Protection is afforded to citizens only.
    That is blatantly false and absolutely stupid.
    Really? So, you didn't write a nice, long, lame bit about how I could legally murder an illegal immigrant because they are not, in your view, granted Equal Protection? You didn't say to my question, "So, yes, be very ware"? Would you like me to post the link to the post in which you said this, or, will you admit that you're now trying to save face?
    Verily, I am trying to figure out how you could draw the moronic conclusion (without yourself actually being a moron), as indicated directly above, that I stated only citizens are entitled to equal protection, based on my assertion (of the strictest interpretation) that non-citizens, which are illegally present, are not under US jurisdiction and therefore not entitled to equal protection.
    Quote Originally Posted by Macintosh View Post
    I never said contrary arguments do not exist. They're just, well, the minority and have no constitutional foundation whatsoever. That is apparent to anyone with even a slight understanding of Constitutional Law, of which you have none.
    Opinions which you do not agree with are judicial activism, and opinions you agree with are constitutional, that is classic idiocy.
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    Who the hell was arguing inalienable rights? Equal Protection is what I was arguing, and you damn well know it. You just can't refute my arguments because, well, your logic has not found its way into "mainstream consideration."
    You are running away again like a coward.
    You quoted the unalienable (endowed by creator) words of the preamble as the source of "natural rights" (conventional definition is faulty) which you promptly extended to anything you deemed a person.
    My proposition stipulated that the laws of the institution are based on positive law, not "natural law" (conventional definition is faulty), wherefore the laws are drafted in the initial contexts for citizens at the exclusion of all else.
    Moreover, I expounded that equal protection cannot abate, and must be compliant with, the requirements incumbent upon a citizen to receive rights, most notably, the specific requirement of birth. (off topic)
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    It's "buffoonery," not "bafoonery." It's "dementia," not "dimentia." So, about your brilliance...
    Does this trump your first rung of stupidity cited in this post?
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Thats the same thing they said to Blacks on the back of the bus.....hell....we allow you to ride don't we.......get over it.
    sour grapes...........blacks are people defined by their race.......gays are defined by their sexual oreintation.........huge difference........
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    sour grapes...........blacks are people defined by their race.......gays are defined by their sexual oreintation.........huge difference........
    No difference, as no one chooses either. And no difference, as you shouldn't hate anyone for the way they are born, and are not entitled to deprive them of their rights because of the way they are born.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    No difference, as no one chooses either. And no difference, as you shouldn't hate anyone for the way they are born, and are not entitled to deprive them of their rights because of the way they are born.


    That is totally up for debate when it comes to gays and I hate no one.........I just have a difference of opinion on the issue then you do.........Why is that not possible with the people on the left?
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If that is so how do you explain that more and more states are adopting constitutional amendments banning gay marriage?
    Yes....because the bigots on the right are becoming scared of what is coming. They are trying to put up these walls, but eventually they will all fall. Most likely even within your lifetime.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is totally up for debate when it comes to gays and I hate no one.........I just have a difference of opinion on the issue then you do.........Why is that not possible with the people on the left?
    I know I dont need to tell you this, but liberals simply assume that any disagreement you have with them is based in hate and fear.

    After all, they, our intellectual betters, simply cannot imagine any other reason why anyone would disagree with them.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....because the bigots on the right are becoming scared of what is coming.
    Show this to be true.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    sour grapes...........blacks are people defined by their race.......gays are defined by their sexual oreintation.........huge difference........
    There is no difference. Anyone who believes that any American is not entitled to the same rights/privileges as any other American is a bigot.

    I am certain the racists who fought against the civil rights laws didn't consider themselves bigots either. Afterall, they were on the right....god was on their side.

    Homophobia is simply the last bastion of bigotry in the United States and like the rest, it will fall as well.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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