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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Merely holding the position that gays should not marry doesnt qualify as politcal campaigning.
    Funding the campaigns to make sure that it didn't pass is political campaigning.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    Why would I support gay rights? I'm not gay.
    I have seen a lot of ignorant and sad stuff on here, but this might just take the cake. So you should only support the rights of people just like you?
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by veganshawn View Post
    Funding the campaigns to make sure that it didn't pass is political campaigning.
    Perhaps... but you said "any church that opposes gay marriage".
    Obviously, you can oppose gay marriage without going so far as to fund a campaign to that effect.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Perhaps... but you said "any church that opposes gay marriage".
    Obviously, you can oppose gay marriage without going so far as to fund a campaign to that effect.
    I will give you that, I will make sure that any church who knowingly funded Prop H8te should be stripped of their tax free status!
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by veganshawn View Post
    I will give you that, I will make sure that any church who knowingly funded Prop H8te should be stripped of their tax free status!
    Yes, well, good luck with that.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes, well, good luck with that.
    Thanks I will need it!
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by veganshawn View Post
    I have seen a lot of ignorant and sad stuff on here, but this might just take the cake. So you should only support the rights of people just like you?
    That's what this election was all about. I'm just being an American as people voted we should be. I see no reason for constitutional equality for gays when there is no constitutional equality for women.
    Last edited by Bonnie1988; 11-07-08 at 02:52 PM.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    That's what this election was all about. I'm just being an American as people voted we should be.
    The left is famous for only caring about the rights they like.
    That's no different than not caring about gay rights when you arent gay.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The left is famous for only caring about the rights they like.
    That's no different than not caring about gay rights when you arent gay.
    There were plenty of men who supported women's suffrage. There were plenty of white people who opposed segregation. And there are plenty of straight people who support gay marriage, unless you're going to conclude that 47% of Californians are gay.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Allowing blacks to sit in the front of the bus and to drink from the same drinking fountains as the rest of society probably offended many on the "right" as well. But we changed the laws in spite of it because the laws were unfair, discriminatory and wrong.
    Once again you make arguments empty of FACTS. Those people who prevented blacks from having those rights were not on the RIGHT. They were Southern Democrats.

    It was a Republican who fought the most devastating War in American history to free the slaves and who gave the Emancipation Proclamation.

    It was a Democrat that passed Civil Rights Legislation, JFK, which the blacks mistakenly believe is the party that cares about them. Yet after decades of Democrat politics, all we see as a result of Blacks reliance on Democrats is a dependent class of voters and the erosion of family values as a result of well intentioned Democrat welfare programs.

    Again, the argument that race is the same as marriage is the realm of dramatic hysterics and the attempt to suggest that people who disagree with you must "hate". But this is hyperbole and disingenuous in the extreme. But then, we are talking about extremists who are not interested in justice but rather shoving their political agenda down the throats of mainstream America and further driving a wedge between the two.

    The protesting and ranting we are now seeing by these radical extremists to make this a National referendum will not win any allies; but rather have the OPPOSITE affect and push those who would support Civil Unions further away. I look forward to seeing this go all the way to the Supreme Court.

    The hate we are seeing comes from YOUR side, not mine. And your HATE is driving a wedge in any support people like me may have for your issue because it is rapidly becoming apparent that you donít seek a solution, but rather pushes an agenda; one people like me will NEVER support regardless of your divisive offensive hate rhetoric.

    Carry on.

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