I didn't avoid your question at all. I just don't see a reason why they have to have civil unions and not marriage. It is still discrimination then. You also haven't answered my question of who defined those tenets of marriage. The tradition of marriage hasn't changed for over 2,000 years only because in recent decades society has progressed to the point where people don't have as much to fear about coming out. Before this time people had many misconceptions about homosexuality and sex in general. These things have progressed, so I don't see why these tenets of marriage shouldn't progress as well. You ask why, I ask why not?The gay community is a teeny tiny minority; and you continue to avoid my question; why is it they are not content with Civil Unions, why does it HAVE to redefine marriage, a term we have understood and accepted for over 2000 years?