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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Can you show that people that do not approve of same-sex marriages do so out of hate?
    The ONE somewhat logical complaint that I hear from my conservative friends on this issue is the teaching, or propagandizing, of children on the issue.
    Sex, be it regular or decaffeinated, should NOT be taught to children without the parents approval, at least until the child old enough to be naturally curious, maybe age 12, but certainly not in grades K thru 5....when the pro gay community urges the teaching of "my 2 dads" etc. to very young children, it is hard for conservatives, rationally or otherwise, to not imagine that the children are being recruited.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The ONE somewhat logical complaint that I hear from my conservative friends on this issue is the teaching, or propagandizing, of children on the issue.
    Sex, be it regular or decaffeinated, should NOT be taught to children without the parents approval, at least until the child old enough to be naturally curious, maybe age 12, but certainly not in grades K thru 5....when the pro gay community urges the teaching of "my 2 dads" etc. to very young children, it is hard for conservatives, rationally or otherwise, to not imagine that the children are being recruited.
    That is the exact lie that Prop 8 based their entire campaign on. They promoted the lie that is prop 8 failed, children would be required to be taught about gay marriage.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    All the evidence I've seen points to born-homosexuality being the result of a person's brain interpreting the pheromones of the same gender as though it were the opposite gender
    I'd like to see that evidence.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How you got that out of my post is typical.

    The obviously answer was yes.

    Can you name an instance where discrimination against a group is not based on hate and fear?
    how about when their agenda impacts your lifestyle? I don't hate extreme liberals or extreme conservatives, or fear them, but certainly I don't want them to dictate to the rest of us how we should live...well, maybe there is some fear in that last part, depends on some variables, I guess...
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Don't bet your house on it my left wing friend..........
    Can we take it to your belly up bank?
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    how about when their agenda impacts your lifestyle? I don't hate extreme liberals or extreme conservatives, or fear them, but certainly I don't want them to dictate to the rest of us how we should live...well, maybe there is some fear in that last part, depends on some variables, I guess...
    No one is dictating how you can live. How would gay marriage affect your lifestyle?

    The reality is, gay marriage was legal in California for over 1/2 a year and it didn't affect the lives of those opposed to it in the slightest. Heterosexual marriage did not fail and society did not fall apart (as many right-wing opponents suggested).
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How you got that out of my post is typical.
    It should be obvious -- you provided no argument or evidence whatsoever that supported your claim that people that do not approve of same-sex marriages do so out of hate.

    (Note that by 'people', I mean a majority of the group. I'm -sure- that at least ONE person that opposes same-sex marriage does so out of hate).

    You DID supply a gross generalization, but as an unsupported gross generalization, it doesnt support your claim at all -- unless, of course, you can show that said gross generaliszation is, in fact, true.

    Thus, the obvious interpretation of your answer was no.

    So, can you or can you not show that the people that do not approve of same-sex marriages do so out of hate?
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It should be obvious -- you provided no argument or evidence whatsoever that supported your claim that people that do not approve of same-sex marriages do so out of hate.

    (Note that by 'people', I mean a majority of the group. I'm -sure- that at least ONE person that opposes same-sex marriage does so out of hate).

    You DID supply a gross generalization, but as an unsupported gross generalization, it doesnt support your claim at all -- unless, of course, you can show that said gross generaliszation is, in fact, true.

    Thus, the obvious interpretation of your answer was no.

    So, can you or can you not show that the people that do not approve of same-sex marriages do so out of hate?

    Can you name an instance within the history of discrimination in this country that was not based on fear and hatred?
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Can you name an instance within the history of discrimination in this country that was not based on fear and hatred?
    So, again -- your asnwer is 'no'.
    Again - thanks.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So, again -- your asnwer is 'no'.
    Again - thanks.
    I'll patiently await your response.
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