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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Macintosh View Post
    LOL. Really?

    similarly situated legal definition of similarly situated. similarly situated synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

    similarly situated adj. with the same problems and circumstances, referring to the people represented by a plaintiff in a "class action," brought for the benefit of the party filing the suit as well as all those "similarly situated." To be similarly situated, the defendants, basic facts, and legal issues must be the same, and separate lawsuits would be impractical or burdensome

    Pretty clear to me. The rest of your banter has nothing to do with Equal Protection whatsoever.
    LOL Really?
    Did you bother to read what you posted or just google, copy, paste with the appropriate key words?

    you initially used "similarly situated" to indicate both sides. That Same sex couples and opposite sex couples are "similarly situated".
    The definition you posted defines the phrase as a group of Plaintiffs (one side of the argument) being "similarly situated" not both sides.

    Try Again.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    I am ashamed of my state for one simple reason:

    Given the choice between love/inclusion and hate/discrimination on the ballot, a slight majority chose hate.

    Until we can overcome that, any gains that we made Tuesday by electing Obama will be minimized.

    The United States stands for equality and justice for all or it stands for nothing.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Macintosh View Post
    LOL. Really?

    similarly situated legal definition of similarly situated. similarly situated synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

    similarly situated adj. with the same problems and circumstances, referring to the people represented by a plaintiff in a "class action," brought for the benefit of the party filing the suit as well as all those "similarly situated." To be similarly situated, the defendants, basic facts, and legal issues must be the same, and separate lawsuits would be impractical or burdensome

    Pretty clear to me. The rest of your banter has nothing to do with Equal Protection whatsoever.
    But the basic facts are NOT the same.

    Basic Fact in case 1: Man and woman getting married.
    Basic Fact in case 2: Man and man getting married.

    Different basic facts - cut and clear.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The federal constitution gives all people the equal protection of the laws meaning that regardless of gender, a person can marry a woman.
    No, it doesn't mean that. It means that given the same situation (i.e. man marrying a woman) all must be treated equally. Man marrying man is NOT the same situation, so equal protection does NOT apply. If you can find a SCOTUS decision where it does, I will stand down, but I don't think it exists.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    All the evidence I've seen points to born-homosexuality being the result of a person's brain interpreting the pheromones of the same gender as though it were the opposite gender.

    This seems obviously incongruent the purpose and function of that individualís gender, and therefore stands out as some sort of malfunction not far removed from Gender Identity Disorder or a lesser manifestation of Transexuality.

    IMO we should put our resources into developing legitimate treatment for this physiological error instead of trying to legitimize it with notions of "equality".

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I am ashamed of my state for one simple reason:
    Given the choice between love/inclusion and hate/discrimination on the ballot, a slight majority chose hate.
    Can you show that people that do not approve of same-sex marriages do so out of hate?

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Marriage is not only the union between a man and a woman but it has some additional rules, like that a father cannot marry her natural daughter, a brother cannot marry her sister, and similar.

    So, this vote to ban the marriage between members of the same sex is not an act of hate but an act of civility, decency, and to do what is right.

    If marriage between members of the same sex is allowed officially, then incest must be included in the ballot, and lets society to fall as in it fell so miserably in the times of Sodom.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Can you show that people that do not approve of same-sex marriages do so out of hate?
    Discrimination is always based on hate and fear.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Discrimination is always based on hate and fear.
    So, your answer is... "no".
    Thanks.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So, your answer is... "no".
    Thanks.
    How you got that out of my post is typical.

    The obviously answer was yes.

    Can you name an instance where discrimination against a group is not based on hate and fear?
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