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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    But that argument is nothing more than circular reasoning.

    If the people of the State of California amended the Constitution to say that "marriage is only between heterosexual or homosexual latinos" that would change the IF in your equation.

    It will all be moot anyway, because two years from now or 4 years from now the issue will be on the ballot again andI suspect with the movement from the 2000 referendum, it will most likely pass and gay marriage will once again be legal in California. Its only a matter of time.
    There is nothing to barr the majority from instigating such legislation.
    At one point such bigoted legislation was the norm, they were known as jim crow laws.
    California has taken a big step backwards due to homophobic bigotry.
    Such legislation which is exclusionary of one group of people in favor of another group is clearly Un-American and goes against Californian's own constitution which gaurentees equal rights under the law.
    This is anything BUT equal rights, this is the very opposite of equal rights, we're right back to seperate but equal - promoted by the usual suspects.

    Interestingly we have a large group that overwhelmingly is against gay marriage. I'm curious as to why blacks are so homophobic? Why Latino's are so homophobic?

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Unfortunately, a simple majority of people in California believed that discrimination should be written into our state Constitution. Sad. I am ashamed of my state today.
    The same majority believed that farm animals ought to have rights more so than they believed that people should have equal rights.
    For shame.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    "Yes" on prop 8 won?
    Gay.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneCrow View Post
    "Yes" on prop 8 won?
    Gay.
    Well, I guess it would've been asking for too much, we've finally broken through the confines of racial prejudice, but still some ways away from the bigotry that stems from homophobia.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    People need to recognize that the United States constitution supersedes any and all State constitutions. Banning gay marriage is unconstitutional. Once the Supreme Court recognizes that, this Prop 8 will be irrelevant.
    "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices." - Voltaire

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    Next Year I call for proposition 8A - a ban on hetero sexual marriages.
    The state of California shall no longer recognize the marriage of heterosexual marriages regardless of state.

    Fine, get it on the ballot and vote for it and if its approved so be it......That is the way we do things in this country my left wing friend.............
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Macintosh View Post
    People need to recognize that the United States constitution supersedes any and all State constitutions. Banning gay marriage is unconstitutional. Once the Supreme Court recognizes that, this Prop 8 will be irrelevant.

    Don't bet your house on it my left wing friend..........
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Macintosh View Post
    People need to recognize that the United States constitution supersedes any and all State constitutions. Banning gay marriage is unconstitutional. Once the Supreme Court recognizes that, this Prop 8 will be irrelevant.
    On what grounds does the SC have to supercede a state constitutional amendment?
    This is a marriage which is a state issue, not federal, so I don't know A) on what grounds the USC has to intervene; B) What bearing the constitution has on marriage.

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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Don't bet your house on it my left wing friend..........
    First of all, I'm not "left wing" - in fact, I'm center-right. I'm actually a member of a few organizations on either side. I'm a member of the National Right to Life organization; the RainbowPUSH Coalition; and the ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice). I lean right on taxes, defense and some social issues; I just happen to believe same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
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    Re: Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Macintosh View Post
    First of all, I'm not "left wing" - in fact, I'm center-right. I'm actually a member of a few organizations on either side. I'm a member of the National Right to Life organization; the RainbowPUSH Coalition; and the ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice). I lean right on taxes, defense and some social issues; I just happen to believe same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
    Don't take it to heart, NP calls everyone that disagrees with him such. Being on the extreeme fringe right validates that position - literally. he's only saying so to troll.

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