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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Yes it is the Somalia's constitution, I've read the entire document have you?
    What wrong with an Islamic government? Hmm thats a hard one. Nothing if you're a man. The question should be how long would you live under an Islamic law. Are you not use to western laws? Why don't you live in Somaliland or Somalia today? If that is your home why did you leave?
    We'd all like to see change in these countries but it is not our business to rip apart the complex and ancient fabric of their societies upon the whim of our own individual reason. If change should come to them it should be gradual and internal.
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    Cultural Destruction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Somaliland's consitution and law has a basis of Shariah law ofc and i see nothing wrong with that. It has worked very well for it
    Blacks are not descendants of ishmael.
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    Oh and what is wrong with Islam being the state religion? seeing the country is 100% Muslim :/
    The problem is actually with the west itself which should isolate itself.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Are you not use to western laws? Why don't you live in Somaliland or Somalia today? If that is your home why did you leave?
    I skimmed and i didn't see any of those you pointed out :/

    Yes, what is wrong with Islam as a state religion?

    Why do you think i left?
    Im in my 20's and what happened in Somalia/Somaliland 17+ years ago ...

    There are western laws in Somaliland. If i wanted to, i could walk around in jeans or heels and not get stoned to death. Female abuse is dealt with, circumcision has been almost eradicated. The only country in that region without debt to the west and no corruption. All accomplished with Islam being the state religion and aspects of Sharia in place. What is not to love about my home country?

    Besides, im too attached to UK weather. I can't handle the heat of E Africa. Maybe when im older and i have a few kids i'll take them back
    Last edited by Laila; 11-29-08 at 05:32 AM.


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    Re: Cultural Destruction

    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    "Cultural Destruction"
    Blacks are not descendants of ishmael.
    The problem is actually with the west itself which should isolate itself.
    Erm ....
    I never stated Somali's were.

    Islam got brought to my region when it was invaded
    Just pure luck that Islam spread in my country in the 10th century rather than Christianity.

    West isolate themselves from oil? Don't make me laugh
    Last edited by Laila; 11-29-08 at 05:38 AM.


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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    And looking the other way is some how better, like when the world turned a blind eye to Rwanda or Dafur today?
    Yes. What good would come of intervention in Rwanda or Darfur, and at what price? The world turns a blind eye-- or, at least, limits itself to meaningless "condmenation"-- to these atrocities for good reason; it would involve throwing away a lot of good mens' lives just to stand between two peoples who would rather kill each other.

    Let them kill each other! Why should we get involved in these matters, when they will resolve themselves in time?

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Yes. What good would come of intervention in Rwanda or Darfur, and at what price? The world turns a blind eye-- or, at least, limits itself to meaningless "condmenation"-- to these atrocities for good reason; it would involve throwing away a lot of good mens' lives just to stand between two peoples who would rather kill each other.

    Let them kill each other! Why should we get involved in these matters, when they will resolve themselves in time?
    Wow, I'm at a total loss of words.

    Rwanda and Darur wasn't/isn't about two groups fighting each other its about one group slaughtering the other. What kind of human beings are we to just look the other way?
    You say its "throwing lives away"? I say its doing the right thing for the right reasons.
    Standing up for those who cant is part of the American fabric but don't you worry none you and many others will never be placed in harms way. You have to serve your country before that can happen.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Rwanda and Darur wasn't/isn't about two groups fighting each other its about one group slaughtering the other. What kind of human beings are we to just look the other way?
    I don't know, what kind of human beings are we? Our government is not lifting a finger to prevent the atrocities in either location, and they are unlikely to as there is neither great public demand to do so nor any compelling national interest in doing so.

    The only difference between us is that I am okay with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Standing up for those who cant is part of the American fabric but don't you worry none you and many others will never be placed in harms way. You have to serve your country before that can happen.
    I respect your service in the USMC, but how exactly is getting yourself killed in Africa, over African concerns that we have no stake in, serving our country?

    You're right, I will not be in harm's way because of the efforts of yourself and your brother Marines. But part of the reason that you are so effective at protecting our country is that we do not throw your lives away, protecting the lives of people we have no interest in.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I don't know, what kind of human beings are we? Our government is not lifting a finger to prevent the atrocities in either location, and they are unlikely to as there is neither great public demand to do so nor any compelling national interest in doing so.
    The only difference between us is that I am okay with that.
    The sad truth is you're right.
    No one cares because IOF (Its Only Africa). But as a Marine and a human being I'm not ok with just standing by.
    It goes against three words.
    Honor, Courage, and Commitment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I respect your service in the USMC, but how exactly is getting yourself killed in Africa, over African concerns that we have no stake in, serving our country?
    Because its the right thing to do. Sitting in the sidelines isn't what makes us a great country. With all due respect "Respect" from someone who doesn't have a clue about who and what we are means nothing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    You're right, I will not be in harm's way because of the efforts of yourself and your brother Marines. But part of the reason that you are so effective at protecting our country is that we do not throw your lives away, protecting the lives of people we have no interest in.
    Don't even attempt to understand what makes my fellow Marine brothers and sisters or any of my extended Military family an effective force. We believe doing the right thing by saving others isn't "Throwing your life away".

    And last with thoughts like yours why should we help anyone in need, say like after a disaster? How did helping those in the 2004 title wave serve our interests?
    Last edited by cherokee; 11-29-08 at 01:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Islam got brought to my region when it was invaded
    Just pure luck that Islam spread in my country in the 10th century rather than Christianity.
    Invasion seems to be the modus operandi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    West isolate themselves from oil? Don't make me laugh
    No, isolation from immigration.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I skimmed and i didn't see any of those you pointed out :/

    Yes, what is wrong with Islam as a state religion?

    Why do you think i left?
    Im in my 20's and what happened in Somalia/Somaliland 17+ years ago ...

    There are western laws in Somaliland. If i wanted to, i could walk around in jeans or heels and not get stoned to death. Female abuse is dealt with, circumcision has been almost eradicated. The only country in that region without debt to the west and no corruption. All accomplished with Islam being the state religion and aspects of Sharia in place. What is not to love about my home country?

    Besides, im too attached to UK weather. I can't handle the heat of E Africa. Maybe when im older and i have a few kids i'll take them back
    Sounds like to me you didn't read it.
    Besides I was just asking why you don't live there since its such a great place.

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