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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Are YOU ignorant of how the Church saved and improved literacy, saved and built upon knowledge and created a unified European community in very dark times for the continent after the fall of Rome?
    So the point you're making is that the Church has done good. My point is that the Church has done plenty evil. Care to elaborate on why this is relevant to the discussion?
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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    So the point you're making is that the Church has done good. My point is that the Church has done plenty evil. Care to elaborate on why this is relevant to the discussion?
    The Church has done far more good than the evil you claim. The claim was made that the world would be better off without religion, but it was the Church that SAVED Europe from the worst ravages of the fall of Rome and the subsequent Dark Ages.
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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The Church has done far more good than the evil you claim.
    That's your opinion. The Church has also condoned and actively participated in murder and extortion. Buying your way into heaven ring a bell?

    The claim was made that the world would be better off without religion
    That was my opinion and I am entitled to it. I'm sorry it bothers you.
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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Ludahai assessment is correct..

    Man wrote both the Bible and the koran.
    And we, at least the Christians know that these are far from perfect.
    Man, through the Church has tried to do good down through the ages.
    In many respects he has failed (being an imperfect creation)..
    The atheists are ever so quick to pick up on this...could they do any better ????

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Ludahai assessment is correct..

    Man wrote both the Bible and the koran.
    And we, at least the Christians know that these are far from perfect.
    Man, through the Church has tried to do good down through the ages.
    In many respects he has failed (being an imperfect creation)..
    The atheists are ever so quick to pick up on this...could they do any better ????
    I like how you reference atheists as they are the only ones that could possibly disapprove of the actions of the church.

    Ask an Agnostic how they feel about religion and which ones appear (at least) to be on the right track.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Ludahai assessment is correct..

    Man wrote both the Bible and the koran.
    And we, at least the Christians know that these are far from perfect.
    Man, through the Church has tried to do good down through the ages.
    In many respects he has failed (being an imperfect creation)..
    The atheists are ever so quick to pick up on this...could they do any better ????

    I think we have proven that way can. Very few people die in the name of atheism... can you say the same for Christianity or Islam?
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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I've seen Jesus Camp. The Evangelicals don't make the law, but they attempt to influence it through a variety of ways. The first is via lobbying congress people that empathize with religious wackos; the second is by indoctrinating the youth with political messages reinforced with religious dogma. In "Jesus Camp", a cardboard cut out of Bush is shown as some kind of messiah.

    The metaphor is accurate: religion being used to influence free-thinking, political process.

    No, it's not. Not like it is the middle east.

    I realize you're more liberal than Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi's love child ever would be, but you can't truly be THAT BLIND.... can you?

    There is a HUGE difference.

    Sheesh.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It does not occur in every Muslim country, only a ignorant fool would think that.

    Why demand anything out of my religion?
    What right does someone not even following Islam have to make demands of it?
    All I demand is that persons using Islam to brainwash people into murderers be arrested and put in prison for life.

    I also demand that they be fed nothing but Hebrew National beef franks and water!


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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Are YOU ignorant of how the Church saved and improved literacy, saved and built upon knowledge and created a unified European community in very dark times for the continent after the fall of Rome?
    Why would you continue this nonsense when I already exposed this lie for you here http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057798134-post149.html

    This exposes you as someone who intentionally spreads lies. As a proven liar you have no credibility in every post you make.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The Church has done far more good than the evil you claim. The claim was made that the world would be better off without religion, but it was the Church that SAVED Europe from the worst ravages of the fall of Rome and the subsequent Dark Ages.
    After the fall of Rome the xian church CAUSED the dark ages. but tell us more of your apologetic lies...

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