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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Nice try ... but wrong.

    Those evangical wackos do not make the law and they do not murder people for converting away.

    That is the key difference.

    You CANNOT compare the two. Doing so is rather assinine.
    I've seen Jesus Camp. The Evangelicals don't make the law, but they attempt to influence it through a variety of ways. The first is via lobbying congress people that empathize with religious wackos; the second is by indoctrinating the youth with political messages reinforced with religious dogma. In "Jesus Camp", a cardboard cut out of Bush is shown as some kind of messiah.

    The metaphor is accurate: religion being used to influence free-thinking, political process.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    That is true. I do not deny that. Of course, the world would be a vastly different place.
    Vastly different would be a good thing, IMO.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I've seen Jesus Camp. The Evangelicals don't make the law, but they attempt to influence it through a variety of ways. The first is via lobbying congress people that empathize with religious wackos; the second is by indoctrinating the youth with political messages reinforced with religious dogma. In "Jesus Camp", a cardboard cut out of Bush is shown as some kind of messiah.

    The metaphor is accurate: religion being used to influence free-thinking, political process.
    That's basically what I was going to say.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    the second is by indoctrinating the youth with political messages reinforced with religious dogma. In "Jesus Camp", a cardboard cut out of Bush is shown as some kind of messiah.
    So who were the NYT, WaPo, Newsweek, Rolling Stone, et al attempting to indoctrinate with the Obamessiah front page photos?

    The metaphor is accurate: religion being used to influence free-thinking, political process.
    It ain't a accurate comparison to Islam where religion and politics are closely intertwined and where no such separation is desired or even permitted.

    Is it somehow odious that individuals and organizations with specific religiously-influenced political preferences would petition their governmental representatives?

    And how is Jesus Camp in any way comparable to Sharia law? That's quite a disgusting equivalency you're posting there...
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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    So who were the NYT, WaPo, Newsweek, Rolling Stone, et al attempting to indoctrinate with the Obamessiah front page photos?
    How many children read those papers?


    It ain't a accurate comparison to Islam where religion and politics are closely intertwined and where no such separation is desired or even permitted.
    How are religion and politics not intertwined in America? There's a reason an atheist can never be president right now(read: ignorant religious fanatics).
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawud View Post
    Please provide evidence........
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawud View Post
    Please provide evidence of these so called facts...........
    Compiling of reports on a Muslim site against "Honor Killings"
    Muslims Against Sharia Blog

    Honor killing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Again most are committed by Muslims in Islamic countries.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I know for a fact that you never once spared a single thought for her well-being until after she was cold and dead. That is enough to justify the rest of my supposition.
    Are you that dumb? I didn't know her until she was murdered because she was raped. You can assume all you wish, it only make you look even more foolish.


    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I have no love for the Muslim faith, and I'm certainly no advocate of tolerance for its own sake. If it were Muslims who attacked my family, it would be Muslims that died-- but I wouldn't just blindly attack the nearest mosque and hope that I got the right ones.
    Sure you would....



    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    However, I see no reason to care what Somali Muslims do to Somali girls. With no offense intended to Laila, who appears to be quite a lovely person, there simply isn't a single Somali on the planet whose life means a damn to me.
    I see all the reason to care about a woman who was killed because she was raped. However I see no reason to care about the death of some one with your beliefs.



    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I criticized you for using a young girl's violation and murder to justify a political agenda. And, I criticized you for allowing yourself to be outraged over something that wasn't your concern-- and for being doubly outraged over my refusal to do so.
    Defending them to the end huh.

    I reported a story of a girls murder and the reasons behind it. My "agenda" as you so lamely put it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with posting the truth and demanding a group of so called peaceful people living up to their own Bull****!

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    So who were the NYT, WaPo, Newsweek, Rolling Stone, et al attempting to indoctrinate with the Obamessiah front page photos?
    Do those sources tell people they will burn in the fiery depths of hell for all eternity for disobeying the rules?...

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    My "agenda" as you so lamely put it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with posting the truth and demanding a group of so called peaceful people living up to their own Bull****!
    So because a few people of any group do something terrible the entire group should be labeled?

    Looks like every religion in history should come forward as cold hard killers, rapists, pedophiles, hypocrites, hatemongers, brainwashers, robbers, okay.. I'll stop there. But you get the point.

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    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    So because a few people of any group do something terrible the entire group should be labeled?

    Looks like every religion in history should come forward as cold hard killers, rapists, pedophiles, hypocrites, hatemongers, brainwashers, robbers, okay.. I'll stop there. But you get the point.
    I have a problem with the "Its only a few" when it occurs in every Muslim country.

    Besides in the past many of the worlds religions have stepped out of the dark ages. Should we not demand that Islam comes into the same light?

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