Page 14 of 30 FirstFirst ... 4121314151624 ... LastLast
Results 131 to 140 of 296

Thread: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

  1. #131
    Sage
    Laila's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Last Seen
    04-28-17 @ 01:48 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    10,095

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Most Americans have only seen a characature of Islam through the worst elements of the faith. There are more militant radicals in Islam than in Christianity, but to assume that all one billion or so Muslims in the world are radicals is an unsustainable reach. I have had a lot of interaction with Muslims in my career - most of which has been extraordinarly positive. I have found most Muslims to be kind, generous, God fearing people. The militants spoil it for everyone else.
    Thats wonderful, i'd love to have the opportunity one day to travel the Muslim countries - where have you travelled so far? =]

    Sadly yes, the radicals seem to have both the spotlight and stage and it tends to be mainstream moderates that take the backlash for what is done by the minority.


  2. #132
    Defender of the Faith
    ludahai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Taichung, Taiwan - 2017 East Asian Games Candidate City
    Last Seen
    07-03-13 @ 02:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    10,320

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Thats wonderful, i'd love to have the opportunity one day to travel the Muslim countries - where have you travelled so far? =]

    Sadly yes, the radicals seem to have both the spotlight and stage and it tends to be mainstream moderates that take the backlash for what is done by the minority.
    The only Islamic countries I have actually visited are Indonesia (which language I speak reasonably well) and Malaysia (also with a similar language). In my work in both the US and now in Taiwan, I have worked with Muslims from the Philippines, India, Pakistan, Kuwait, Iran, UAE, Somalia (I think the former Italian part), Sudan, Western Sahara, and Algeria.
    Semper Paratus
    Boston = City of Champions: Bruins 2011; Celtics 2008; Red Sox 2004, 2007; Patriots 2002, 2004, 2005
    Jon Huntsman for President

  3. #133
    Sage
    Laila's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Last Seen
    04-28-17 @ 01:48 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    10,095

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The only Islamic countries I have actually visited are Indonesia (which language I speak reasonably well) and Malaysia (also with a similar language). In my work in both the US and now in Taiwan, I have worked with Muslims from the Philippines, India, Pakistan, Kuwait, Iran, UAE, Somalia (I think the former Italian part), Sudan, Western Sahara, and Algeria.
    Wow, you have a great deal more experience than me regarding this then. I have not yet interacted with such a diverse range of Muslims


  4. #134
    Baby Eating Monster
    Korimyr the Rat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Laramie, WY
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 02:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    18,709
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Looking out for one's on tribe is one thing. For it to result in violence, especially as it has been manifested in Somalia and DR Congo/Rwanda is another entirely.
    Two tribes can't own the same land, and if you force them to share they're going to build up a whole Hell of a lot of resentment. As soon as there's no authority to force them to play nice, there's going to be bloodshed.

    Best thing to do is to stop trying to be "humanitarian" and let them bleed it out until there's enough room for both of them-- or until there's only one tribe to worry about. Don't see that there's much reason for us to prefer one over the other, anyway.

  5. #135
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Tiamat's better half
    Last Seen
    10-28-11 @ 01:41 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    15,998

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    I'll freely admit I've developed a sort of disgust for Islam and Muslims in general. I don't really like religions in general, any of them. I don't think it's so bad that I can't treat Muslims with respect. But it's certainly gotten to the point where I'm less sympathetic towards Islamic dogma and Muslim rhetoric in general. I'd never want to live in a Muslim dominated country. As far as I'm concerned it's up to them to stop treating women like **** and until they do I'll hold them in contempt. I do realize there are moderate Muslims in the world but unless they can wrestle the reputation of their religion back from the nutty misogynists it's unlikely I'll hold them in high regard. As far as I'm concerned Islam needs to grow up and apologizing for it's many many tantrums is counterproductive.

  6. #136
    User Apeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Tucson
    Last Seen
    11-07-08 @ 07:54 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    22

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Why out of the question?
    Live Free or defeat those who would control you

  7. #137
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Whitewater, CO
    Last Seen
    04-05-16 @ 06:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,260
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    O'rly?

    Unfortunately... yes.

    And they continue to brainwash little children and murder teenage girls for ALLEGED violations of Islam-o-nazi law.

  8. #138
    Sage
    Laila's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Last Seen
    04-28-17 @ 01:48 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    10,095

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I'll freely admit I've developed a sort of disgust for Islam and Muslims in general. I don't really like religions in general, any of them.
    And that is your choice, i don't see why it would have any impact whatsoever on Muslims or Islam at all.

    I don't think it's so bad that I can't treat Muslims with respect. But it's certainly gotten to the point where I'm less sympathetic towards Islamic dogma and Muslim rhetoric in general.
    Don't worry, keep on going and very soon you'll hit that stage. I can't even give Muslims more sympathy. I showed more for Obamas grandmother than this 13 year old girl.

    I'd never want to live in a Muslim dominated country. As far as I'm concerned it's up to them to stop treating women like **** and until they do I'll hold them in contempt.
    Yes well, not all Muslims countries treat their females like **** hence why i can't wait to move from UK to a Muslim country.

    I do realize there are moderate Muslims in the world but unless they can wrestle the reputation of their religion back from the nutty misogynists it's unlikely I'll hold them in high regard. As far as I'm concerned Islam needs to grow up and apologizing for it's many many tantrums is counterproductive.
    People always say 'moderates need to relcaim their religion' yet never seem to state how we are supposed to do that.
    How am Moderates like me, who are currentley attempting to get by in UK - Meant to take down extremism? I can't so why even waste my damn time? There is no point except to make Non Muslims feel more happier we are 'doing something'
    And who is going to speak on behalf on Islam on this world? LOL
    No one has the authority to make an apology on behalf of Islam.
    So i can safely say, you'll be waiting for a bloody long time for that apology
    Last edited by Laila; 11-04-08 at 03:19 AM.


  9. #139
    Educator Dogger807's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 06:53 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    979

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    No, but it makes very little sense to be revulsed by something that happened a very long way away, that you can neither prevent nor avenge. Put me in town square with an angry mob and a young girl, and I can only hope that my answer would be different.

    I never even heard of this girl before she was cold and in the ground. That makes it very difficult to care.

    I know I'm coming in this conversation late, but I have to say that apathy toward these actions even in a far off land is as bad as condoning them. If I had been in that square when this happened I simply would not be alive today. A futile gesture most likely , but they would have had to go through me first to get at her.

    I never heard of this girl before she was cold and in the ground. This makes it no less difficult to care and grieve for her.
    Ignorance is the refuge of faith
    It's become very apparent that there is nothing respectable about faith
    "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people"

  10. #140
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Last Seen
    12-26-10 @ 06:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,083

    Re: Raped 13 year old girl stoned to death.

    I sort of agree with Korimyr. In principle I know I shouldn't, but every day I open a news paper or read online about something heinous that happened somewhere in the world. It seems like that's all that the media reports on, and they report on it to illicit an emotional reaction from the audience. That's how they make their money and get their ratings. The same goes for television news.

    The media posts stories like this for shock value, it's not really educating us about the region or telling us why things are the way they are. It's to get an empty reaction. But you know what, every day I see so many stories, both from my own country and abroad, about how something cruel happened, and I just don't have the energy to invest care in every little thing that happens. I only have control over my own life, and maybe my more immediate surroundings. Every day on my way home from school I see the same woman holding her child while sitting on the sidewalk; she is a filthy mess, her feet bitten up by bugs, and she looks completely woeful. There are other homeless people around but I can't help them all, so I choose to help her. I buy her something to eat. For me, the cost is literally less than 50 cents Canadian. I ask her how she's doing, if she and her kid have had enough to eat today. If I were not in China, I wouldn't know of her existence, and therefore I would not care.

    There is plenty of injustice in my own area. I could do something to help that, and maybe, by proxy, help the entire world somehow. But sitting here and judging a story about something that happened thousands of kilometres away in an area where I have no power to help, is not conducive to any kind of improvement. Call me a pragmatist.

    You care because the article tells you to care. How many other injustices in the world are you not aware of right now? If you could be apprised of even 2% of the crap going on in the world, you would forget the moral argument against apathy; you would simply be overwhelmed and not have the mental capacity to care.
    Last edited by Orion; 11-04-08 at 07:29 AM.

Page 14 of 30 FirstFirst ... 4121314151624 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •