I'm not disputing the distinction between social politics and religion, although the driving force behind the majority of social politics in Islamic countries is, not suprisingly, Islam. I'm merely asserting the fact that the majority of Muslims are fundamentalists and the OP is indicative of this trend within Islam. There's nothing wrong with identifying this trend and analyzing it much the same as people identify and analyze the influence Christian fundamentalists exercise on American social politics. We attempted to have a similar conversation before and the forum nearly tripped over itself in attempt to out-PC one another, but this is only because they failed to see the distinction between a fundamentalist and an extremist (the latter being something I never implied).It's not Islam, it's social politics. We're talking about Somalia. This type of thing would never happen in Jordan, or Egypt, or many other places where Muslims are the majority. Laws differ in different countries. Religion exists along side free societies just like it does alongside of fascist societies. Religion is always there. It's the level of social politics that determines the level of barbarism.
I'm not arguing degree, only theory. The degree to which religion influences social politics in Muslim countries varies but it is, nonetheless, largely present in virtually every one of them. Muslim women are viewed and treated as second class citizens in virtually every Muslim country in the world - both culturally and legally - this is a fact.Regional social politics are the "status quo", and religion, of course, will end up playing a role in that, but religion is not the determiner. If that were true, then all Islamic nations of the world would demonstrate this level of violence, and the truth is that only a few do. You don't see women getting stoned to death in the UAE, do you?
Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat
However, I see no reason to care what Somali Muslims do to Somali girls. With no offense intended to Laila, who appears to be quite a lovely person, there simply isn't a single Somali on the planet whose life means a damn to me.
None taken :P
I think he is disgusted because some islamic barbarians stoned a rape victim to death.
Regardless of the girl's age this act is an atrocity that was caused by the mind numbing effects of Islam-o-nazi brainwashing.
This type of crim SHOULD shock and horrify EVERYBODY!
Karma is a royal bitch and you may rest assured that those responsible for the act WILL get their comeuppance.
I think Islam, misinterpreted though it may have been, was the catylist for this crime.
If not for the islam-o-nazi asshats that live by the corrupt word of wahabbi islam, this murder would likely not have occurred.
Islam does bare some responisbilty for what occurred. Most of the blame falls on some brainwashed assholes who need to face as horrible a death as possible.
The same base attitudes towards women also still exists in our country. Note that it is criminal to hang an effigy of a man but humorous to do so of a woman. Slavery of women is still very much alive in the USA.