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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by veganshawn View Post
    Good for them, provide a safe haven for a service that is needed, how else will the closeted Republicans get their jollies off
    At least democrats can finally file W-2's.
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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    I've been saying that prostitution should be legal for the past 40 years.
    Why must our nation be so backward ?
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    Look to Holland for guidance then, learn from their mistakes..
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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    Have any of you guys been to Amsterdam its like Disney world had a red light district.If your a guy with your mates people follow you down the street asking you to by cocaine asking you if ya wanna buy cocaine.

    As for the prostitutes alot of them are African and eastern european women who have often been tricked into coming.Some are also illegal immigrants but the liberal laws dont act against that so well.However their pimps and these guys are pimps can chuck them out in which case whats is the girl suppose to do with nowhere to live.I know in the perfect world its just 2 consenting adults but it isn't gonna cut the abuse.
    It must be known that prostitution is WRONG; that does not mean that it should be illegal.. It should be taxed and controlled. Obviously Holland is not up to this task...I wonder if we are ?
    As to cocaine, what are its overall effect on Holland ? In a society there will always be a certain percentage of worthless citizens; keep that number low enough and there should be minimal problems..

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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    I think I read that SF decided not to pass this measure at this time.
    more's the pity.
    But at least they considered it, which is progress, and I'm sure it'll keep coming back to the table- much like gay marriage- until it does pass.
    All societies must progress and evolve, or else wither.

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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I've been saying that prostitution should be legal for the past 40 years.
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    Look to Holland for guidance then, learn from their mistakes..
    Have a President who can think, can originate an original idea..
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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    It must be known that prostitution is WRONG; that does not mean that it should be illegal.. It should be taxed and controlled. Obviously Holland is not up to this task...I wonder if we are ?
    As to cocaine, what are its overall effect on Holland ? In a society there will always be a certain percentage of worthless citizens; keep that number low enough and there should be minimal problems..
    Why is buying your wife a new fridge so that she'll be happy and keep blowing you, wrong?

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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Legalizing prostitution will attract people who would never do it if it were illegal.
    And legalising gay marriage will attract people who would never do that if it were illegal.

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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    It is a cruel lie to suggest that decriminalization or legalization
    will protect anyone in prostitution. There is much evidence that
    whatever its legal status, prostitution causes great harm to
    women. The following sections summarize some of the many
    studies that now document the physical and emotional harm
    caused by prostitution.
    In the past two decades, a number of authors have documented
    or analyzed the sexual and physical violence that is the normative
    experience for women in prostitution, including Baldwin (1993,
    1999); Barry (1979, 1995); Boyer, Chapman, and Marshall (1993);
    Dworkin (1981, 1997, 2000); Farley, Baral, Kiremire, and Sezgin
    (1998); Giobbe (1991, 1993); Hoigard and Finstad (1986); Hughes
    (1999); Hunter (1994); Hynes and Raymond (2002); Jeffreys
    (1997); Karim, Karim, Soldan, and Zondi (1995); Leidholdt (1993);
    MacKinnon (1993, 1997, 2001); McKeganey and Barnard (1996);
    Miller (1995); Silbert and Pines (1982a, 1982b); Silbert, Pines, and
    Lynch (1982);Valera, Sawyer, and Schiraldi (2001);Vanwesenbeeck
    (1994); and Weisberg (1985).


    Of 854 people in prostitution in nine countries (Canada,
    Colombia, Germany, Mexico, South Africa, Thailand, Turkey,
    United States, and Zambia), 71% experienced physical assaults in
    prostitution, and 62% reported rapes in prostitution (Farley, Cotton,
    et al., 2003). Eighty-nine percent told the researchers that they
    wanted to leave prostitution but did not have other options for
    economic survival. To normalize prostitution as a reasonable job
    choice for poor women makes invisible their strong desire to
    escape prostitution.
    Vanwesenbeeck (1994) found that two factors were associated
    with greater violence in prostitution. The greater the poverty, the
    greater the violence; and the longer one is in prostitution, the
    more likely one is to experience violence. Similarly, the more time
    women spent in prostitution, the more STDs they reported
    (Parriott, 1994).
    Those promoting prostitution rarely address class, race, and
    ethnicity as factors that make women even more vulnerable to
    health risks in prostitution.

    Throughout history, regardless of its legal status, prostitution
    has had a devastating impact on women’s health. In 1858, Sanger
    asked 2,000 prostitutes in New York about their health and concluded
    that premature old age was the invariable result of prostitution
    (as cited in Benjamin & Masters, 1964). Sanger described
    conditions of despair, degradation, decline, and early death
    among prostitutes who survived on average only four years after
    entry into prostitution. A physician, he wondered how they
    lasted that long (Benjamin & Masters, 1964). Making the same
    observation in the parlance of today’s global marketplace, an
    anonymous pimp commented on the “brief shelf life” of a girl in
    prostitution.
    Pheterson (1996) summarized the health problems of women
    in prostitution: exhaustion, frequent viral illness, STDs, vaginal
    infections, back aches, sleeplessness, depression, headaches,
    stomachaches, and eating disorders. Women who were used by
    more customers in prostitution reported more severe physical
    symptoms (Vanwesenbeeck, 1994). A Canadian commission
    found that the death rate of women in prostitution was 40 times
    higher than that of the general population (Special Committee on
    Pornography and Prostitution, 1985). Amortality survey of more
    than 1,600 women in U.S. prostitution noted that “no population
    of women studied previously has had a . . . percentage of deaths
    due to murder even approximating those observed in our cohort”
    (Potterat et al., 2004, p. 783). In this survey, murder accounted for
    50% of the deaths of women in prostitution. Reviewing comparable
    studies, Potterat et al. (2004) noted that murder accounted for
    between 29% and 100% of all prostituted women’s reported
    deaths in Birmingham, UK; Nairobi, Vancouver, Canada; and
    London.
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    Yes, legalize prostitution, it's such a good thing, a good thing for women.

    The facts bare out how much better legal prositution is...

    You guys should go read some of the studies on the horror that prostitution is, and you'll see there is more then "pushing morality" fighting against prostitution.

    I care about people, legalizing evil isn't a good thing.
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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Yes, legalize prostitution, it's such a good thing, a good thing for women.

    The facts bare out how much better legal prositution is...

    You guys should go read some of the studies on the horror that prostitution is, and you'll see there is more then "pushing morality" fighting against prostitution.

    I care about people, legalizing evil isn't a good thing.
    Regardless of what studies may indicate you can't legislate morality nor what someone will do to their own body. This has been proven as well.

    Driving a car has been proven to be dangerous to all living things, yet we still drive cars, cigarettes have been proven to be dangerous, not only to the smoker but innocent bystanders as well, alcohol has been proven to be dangerous to the drinker as well as anyone they may come into contact with, mountain climbing and sky diving and gambling, motorcycle riding and swimming... if your point is that prostitution should remain illegal because it's harmful to women then you must also be against anything being legal that can cause harm to women (like giving birth) especially those things that cause more harm to women and men than prostitution. So where should your legislation begin and end?

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    Re: San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Yes, legalize prostitution, it's such a good thing, a good thing for women.

    The facts bare out how much better legal prositution is...

    You guys should go read some of the studies on the horror that prostitution is, and you'll see there is more then "pushing morality" fighting against prostitution.

    I care about people, legalizing evil isn't a good thing.
    Thats the thing though this isnt about whether or not prositution is particually pleasant vocation for those involved but how to reduce the unpleasantness. Citeing statistics for countrys like the UK where prostitution is legal is kinda missing the point.

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