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Trump's team denies photographic evidence of turnout!

Aristaeus said:
No it doesn't. It means in addition to. 'The largest audience ever to witness an inauguration, both in person and around the globe' has two separate statements: the largest audience in person and the largest audience around the world. The first is demonstrably false, the second may be true but is probably unprovable.
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Actually, it can be read either way. I think you will see several intentional examples every week from Spicer to rattle the press when they report with confirmation bias, instead of asking for clarification.

I think he planned it from the start, to shame the media.
 
Anthony60 said:
I think the left, amazingly, still doesn't get it.
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Everybody got it. Trump is bothered by the low turn out and made that poor bastard lie. It is that simple.

This won't, and has not, damaged Trump.
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It confirmed what is being continuously said.

The media, on the other hand, is continuously exposed for what they are.
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Inquisitive.

Biased for the left.
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Unless it is Fox.

It also sends the message that Trump isn't going to take their crap and will call them on it.
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The crap was only from Spicer and the nutcracker.

I really don't think that they will ever figure it out. As an aside, it is hilarious the way he just fires right back at them
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with lies, good strategy. Let see how that works out in the long term.

I've had many good laughs at the media's expense.
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Everyone has.
 
LOL...

OK....

If that is the answer that makes y sleep better at night.

LOL...
 
prometeus said:
Everybody got it. Trump is bothered by the low turn out and made that poor bastard lie. It is that simple.

It confirmed what is being continuously said.

Inquisitive.

Unless it is Fox.

The crap was only from Spicer and the nutcracker.

with lies, good strategy. Let see how that works out in the long term.

Everyone has.
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Aw, yes, so much invested in trying to implement the leftwing playbook of demonizing Trump and making him illegitimate. While you are doing this Trump is meeting with Business, Labor, foreign leaders to promote job growth, economic activity, and trade relations around the world all benefiting the US and putting this country first. Must drive people like you crazy as apparently those aren't in your agenda for this country
 
Conservative said:
Aw, yes, so much invested in trying to implement the leftwing playbook of demonizing Trump and making him illegitimate.
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Why do you have to make up stupid crap? Can't you formulate an intelligent rational and relevant argument? Never mind, that was a rhetorical question. Where have I questioned Trump's legitimacy?

While you are doing this Trump is meeting with Business, Labor, foreign leaders to promote job growth, economic activity, and trade relations around the world all benefiting the US and putting this country first.
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Good, that is what he was elected for not making the spice man tell lies.

Must drive people like you crazy
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You are projecting. It drives you crazy that you can't you make an intelligent argument and come across as nothing more than a partisan hack.

as apparently those aren't in your agenda for this country
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What agenda would that be? I do not recall sharing anything with you.
 
prometeus said:
Why do you have to make up stupid crap? Can't you formulate an intelligent rational and relevant argument? Never mind, that was a rhetorical question. Where have I questioned Trump's legitimacy?

Good, that is what he was elected for not making the spice man tell lies.

You are projecting. It drives you crazy that you can't you make an intelligent argument and come across as nothing more than a partisan hack.

What agenda would that be? I do not recall sharing anything with you.
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I asked that question in this and other threads only to get silence. why don't you start and tell me exactly what you want Trump to do that he hasn't already started doing in action? I know words matter to you as apparently you bought the Obama rhetoric for 8 years but actual results matter, not rhetoric
 
Conservative said:
I asked that question in this and other threads only to get silence. why don't you start and tell me exactly what you want Trump to do that he hasn't already started doing in action?
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How about something simple as stoping with the inane dishonesty where it matters not at all?

I know
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Actually it is painfully obvious that you know nothing outside the function of a partisan hack.
 
prometeus said:
How about something simple as stoping with the inane dishonesty where it matters not at all?

Actually it is painfully obvious that you know nothing outside the function of a partisan hack.
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Thank you, but the reality is you show who the true partisan hack is as you refuse to answer a very basic and simple question. Trump has done more in a few days than Obama did in 8 years for economic activity, growth, and debt reduction and yet that isn't enough. What is enough for you?
 
Conservative said:
Thank you, but the reality is you show who the true partisan hack is as you refuse to answer a very basic and simple question. Trump has done more in a few days than Obama did in 8 years for economic activity, growth, and debt reduction and yet that isn't enough. What is enough for you?
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He has not done anything that has had an effect yet. Be patient, time will tell one way or the other.
 
The big picture here isnt what crowd was bigger; the actual topic is that Trump is having a war against the freedom of the press. When a president disputes the press and wont talk to certain media we have a problem. Add on top of that, Trump wanting more latitude to sue the media. And you also have to take in account that a alternative news site has a direct connection to the president. Breitbart stands to make massive gains by Trump attacking the likes of CNN etc.

Watch: Steve Bannon Sworn in as President Trump Chief Strategist - Breitbart

Breitbart's Sebastian Gorka to join Trump White House - Business Insider

Breitbart writer expected to join White House staff - POLITICO
 
Hillary Clinton's Inauguration Ceremony

Here's Hillary Clinton's turnout.

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jwzg said:
Here's Hillary Clinton's turnout.

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You bring up a good question. What would happen if the Hillary crowd rambled-up all they could to attend a Hillary rally, including other speakers. Take a picture. Compare that picture to Trump's.
 
Lord of Planar said:
~ I repeatedly asked who claimed the 2017 attendance was greater than the 2009, and nobody came forward ~
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Excon said:
As usual ~
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VanceMack said:
Your comments are either delusional or dishonest. The CNN sit offers a complete photographic panorama that runs all the way back. If you insist on repeating the lie then you kind of expose yourself. ~
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The Gigapixel picture does not show people packed into the white flooring area in front of the Washington monument or not.

So it seems I am saying exactly the same thing as you - the physical numbers at the inauguration were down and the overhead aerial shot is mainly accurate despite many people saying not.

Now, I repeat, the real issue is not the numbers but the fact that from day one the new administration lied to the public over the smallest issue possible. Now, wait for the bigger issues and see how the relationship with the press goes.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
The Gigapixel picture does not show people packed into the white flooring area in front of the Washington monument or not.

So it seems I am saying exactly the same thing as you - the physical numbers at the inauguration were down and the overhead aerial shot is mainly accurate despite many people saying not.

Now, I repeat, the real issue is not the numbers but the fact that from day one the new administration lied to the public over the smallest issue possible. Now, wait for the bigger issues and see how the relationship with the press goes.
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You quoted me but still have not done anything to address what I said directly to me.

As for "lied to the public"? iLOL
The first person you quoted above has sufficiently addressed that with you.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
The Gigapixel picture does not show people packed into the white flooring area in front of the Washington monument or not.

So it seems I am saying exactly the same thing as you - the physical numbers at the inauguration were down and the overhead aerial shot is mainly accurate despite many people saying not.

Now, I repeat, the real issue is not the numbers but the fact that from day one the new administration lied to the public over the smallest issue possible. Now, wait for the bigger issues and see how the relationship with the press goes.
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It is beyond dishonest that you claim the 'aerial shot is mainly accurate'. Sorry...it just is and if you cling to that line of rhetoric you can't be shocked. If your position started "yes...obviously he aerial shot was presented in an effort to paint the turnout as dismal", then your 'but...' comments might have validity.


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Excon said:
You quoted me but still have not done anything to address what I said directly to me.

As for "lied to the public"? iLOL
The first person you quoted above has sufficiently addressed that with you.
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I thought we were in agreement and Trump did lie when he said he saw 1.5 million..

VanceMack said:
It is beyond dishonest that you claim the 'aerial shot is mainly accurate'.
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So your eyesight tells you the white area in the gigapixel is packed with people?

Tell me how that is different from how empty the aerial side by side comparison shots are please?
 
In that interview last night Trump could still not let it go. I don't know how David Muir kept a straight face.

Sea of love!! :lol: Leggo his ego!
 
Infinite Chaos said:
I thought we were in agreement ...
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Strange.
My previous post made it clear you should address what I actually said.
Yet you are not doing that. Figures.


Infinite Chaos said:
... and Trump did lie when he said he saw 1.5 million..
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More strangeness.
What you said was that "the new administration lied to the public". As you didn't specifically say Trump, I took that to mean his staff, you know, like Spicer. Which you should have pickled up on by what I replied with.

As for Trump lying? You claimed he said he saw 1.5 million. That is a definitive claim.
Well you are wrong to even frame it as a definitive.

Trump said, “... it looked like a million, million and a half people.”
1. Looks like is not a definitive.
2. From his vantage point it very well may have looked that way.

So no, not a lie. Your claim is biased spin, and as such, is the lie here.
 
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jwzg said:
Here's Hillary Clinton's turnout.

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That is what Trump should be focused on. He should take some satisfaction in that his prep rally was bigger than Hillary's. He will never be as popular as Obama.

bluesmoke said:
You bring up a good question. What would happen if the Hillary crowd rambled-up all they could to attend a Hillary rally, including other speakers. Take a picture. Compare that picture to Trump's.
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Disagree, I don't think its a good question at all. This whole thing is a temper tantrum by the man-child over something so trivial, yet here we on on DP devoting 57 pages of posts arguing over it. Trump needs to grown and become President, while the rest of us need to stick to substantive issues and stop chasing these bones Trump those like an ignorant puppy dogs. The guy is making bonehead moves daily and we are still talking about this.
 
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upsideguy said:
That is what Trump should be focused on. He should take some satisfaction in that his prep rally was bigger than Hillary's. He will never be as popular as Obama.



Disagree, I don't think its a good question at all. This whole thing is a temper tantrum by the man-child over something so trivial, yet here we on on DP devoting 57 pages of posts arguing over it. Trump needs to grown and become President, while the rest of us need to stick to substantive issues and stop chasing these bones Trump those like an ignorant puppy dogs. The guy is making bonehead moves daily and we are still talking about this.
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He may never be as popular but he already is more successful in the groundwork he has laid with union, business, world leaders, and keeping his promises. Trump's rhetoric is irrelevant to me as what he does is more important and he is doing exactly what I want
 
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Conservative said:
He may never be as popular but he already is more successful in the groundwork he has laid with union, business, world leaders, and keeping his promises. Trump's rhetoric is irrelevant to me as what he does is more important and he is doing exactly what I want
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What he did was LIE. That was his ACTIONS. You can't even admit he lied. Pathetic hero worship you got there.
 
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Praxas said:
What he did was LIE. That was his ACTIONS. You can't even admit he lied. Pathetic hero worship you got there.
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That is your opinion, i prefer to say he gave an opinion. It is interesting that real lies went right over your head with Obama and I have posted those lies but his statement about the crowd size is the biggest lie ever to be spoken by anyone. You really need to seek some help because it isn't healthy for someone to be so focused on giving words an anal exam while ignoring what is actually going on in this country today as we finally move forward. Pathetic is someone who calls themselves independent but posts nothing but partisan leftwing rhetoric and bs
 
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Praxas said:
What he did was LIE. That was his ACTIONS. You can't even admit he lied. Pathetic hero worship you got there.
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While you are focusing on rhetoric about crowd size here are just a few of the things actually going on inside the govt. including campaign promises

List of Trump's executive orders | Fox News

In addition Trump has met with the President of the Teamsters and gained their support. met with business leaders and gained support from Carrier, Ford, Softbank, Boeing, Lockheed on jobs and plants, scheduled meetings with foreign leaders. He is proceeding forward today cutting off funding for sanctuary cities and threatening to stop the violence in Chicago.

Not bad for the first week in office. So crowd size? LOL, who gives a damn, results matter
 
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Conservative said:
While you are focusing on rhetoric about crowd size here are just a few of the things actually going on inside the govt. including campaign promises

List of Trump's executive orders | Fox News

In addition Trump has met with the President of the Teamsters and gained their support. met with business leaders and gained support from Carrier, Ford, Softbank, Boeing, Lockheed on jobs and plants, scheduled meetings with foreign leaders. He is proceeding forward today cutting off funding for sanctuary cities and threatening to stop the violence in Chicago.

Not bad for the first week in office. So crowd size? LOL, who gives a damn, results matter
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Nice deflection from his lies, I hope you are at least getting paid for your partisan hack comments. He lied, that is UNDENIABLE. So, using your logic, Obama didn't lie he just gave his opinion that he could later change his mind on. :roll:
 
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