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Trump to John Lewis: Fix your ‘horrible’ Atlanta district[W:195]

Re: Trump to John Lewis: Fix your ‘horrible’ Atlanta district

haymarket said:
Trump assumes that the district Lewis represents is Black which must then mean its one big ghetto and crime ridden and its all John Lewis fault.
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And I suppose you have proof that Trump assumed that. Or is this just more of your butt hurt shining through.
 
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randel said:
call it an educated guess
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thanks for proving you can't.
 
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Phys251 said:
Yes that's totally what I said. :roll:

But if you wanna get into a silly argument about who's got more crime and who has less, you should know this is a Red state with a completely Republican state government.
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Like damn near every red state, theres always those blue cities that **** things up for everyone. Georgia is no different.
 
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haymarket said:
Trump assumes that the district Lewis represents is Black which must then mean its one big ghetto and crime ridden and its all John Lewis fault.
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How do you know this? Lewis apparently represents the bulk of Atlanta. Does he not bear any accountability? As generally is the case, Trump here responded to an attack upon him.
 
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VanceMack said:
Like damn near every red state, theres always those blue cities that **** things up for everyone. Georgia is no different.
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Oh really? Tell me, how would Alpharetta's, Cobb's, Gwinnett's, Clayton County's, etc. economies even function without the urban core of Atlanta?
 
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braindrain said:
And I suppose you have proof that Trump assumed that. Or is this just more of your butt hurt shining through.
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trump has clearly stated he doesn't know what he thinks until he says it .
 
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Manc Skipper said:
One of Lewis' achievements was the Fair Housing Act of 1967, targeting racist landlords. The one Trump was sued under.
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One of Lewis' achievements? How so? Lewis wasn't even a mayor in 1967, let alone a member of Congress. Activist, yes. And as far as I know, the Fair Housing Act was passed in 1968, not 1967.
 
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ludin said:
plenty if he is working with and should be working with his local governments to see what can be done.
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Plenty local control over governance? No. That is not correct.

He can advocate better funding etc from Washington. help divert more resources to crime prevention programs.
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Advocate for funding. OK, that is something a Congressman/woman can and should do for their district. Divert more resources? From where? What programs and how much? To where exactly?

nope he just wants to complain and rant about a legally elected president.
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Nope? Nope, Rep. Lewis has not advocated for funding or hasn't advocated enough? Hasn't "diverted" resources for crime prevention programs or hasn't diverted enough? Compared to what?

You made the accusations, step up. Give me the facts. Show me where, when, how and how often John Lewis has not done enough for his district. Show me where Lewis didn't advocate for funding for his district. Show me where Lewis did "divert" resources for crime prevention. How much could/should he have diverted over the years? Give me the facts.

You have the facts or you are pulling stuff out of your ass not knowing exactly what you are trying to pass off as truth. Bring it.
 
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Phys251 said:
Oh really? Tell me, how would Alpharetta's, Cobb's, Gwinnett's, Clayton County's, etc. economies even function without the urban core of Atlanta?
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In your mind that somehow negates the fact that there are segments of the city that are cancerous and make Atlanta one of the most violent cities in the country?

Your comments sort of embody the problem in EVERY major city including the politics of those cities. As long as you can look at the shiny objects over here, you can ignore the pile of **** over there. And thats why people like Lewis and the wonderful Hank Johnson in the neighboring 4th can get elected. All those socialite sweet tea liberals sitting back saying aint life jes fine....because those folk dont go to Bankhead all that often.
 
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NonoBadDog said:
Man, nobody is giving you any love today. ;)
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that is ok....i'm a big boy, i'll be alright
 
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Mac77 said:
Lewis cannot open his mouch without complaining about mistreatment of "his" people

I don't have to visit Atlanta to know what a 60% black inner city looks like
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Jesus! You are a quintessential Trumpette.
 
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VanceMack said:
In your mind that somehow negates the fact that there are segments of the city that are cancerous and make Atlanta one of the most violent cities in the country?

Your comments sort of embody the problem in EVERY major city including the politics of those cities. As long as you can look at the shiny objects over here, you can ignore the pile of **** over there. And thats why people like Lewis and the wonderful Hank Johnson in the neighboring 4th can get elected. All those socialite sweet tea liberals sitting back saying aint life jes fine....because those folk dont go to Bankhead all that often.
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Liberals have seen the light and finally switched over to sweet tea? Well I declare! :lol:

I just love how you describe "segments of the city"--i.e., mostly-Black areas--as "cancerous." Nope, nothing prejudiced about that comment at all! :mrgreen:

But hey, at least you know about Bankhead! First shout-out from an outsider to any Atlanta neighborhood. Do you know any others?
 
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Risky Thicket said:
Jesus! You are a quintessential Trumpette.
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He probably thinks that the "Real Housewives of Atlanta" is a highly realistic depiction of Atlanta. :lol:
 
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Phys251 said:
Liberals have seen the light and finally switched over to sweet tea? Well I declare! :lol:

I just love how you describe "segments of the city"--i.e., mostly-Black areas--as "cancerous." Nope, nothing prejudiced about that comment at all! :mrgreen:

But hey, at least you know about Bankhead! First shout-out from an outsider to any Atlanta neighborhood. Do you know any others?
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Ive got family in Dekalb Co and in Atlanta. My wifes family owns some high end condos there. I grew up in Macon so Atlanta wasnt/isnt really my place but I know enough.

I also know that many of those suburban counties are pretty fairly mixed. I'm not the one making this racial...I'm merely pointing out facts. Do YOU want to pretend that most of the high crime areas in West Atlanta area are NOT majority minority communities?
 
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Phys251 said:
Is Trump psychologically capable of not responding in a whiny manner to someone who talks ill of him?
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I have yet to see evidence suggesting that he is capable.
 
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Phys251 said:
He probably thinks that the "Real Housewives of Atlanta" is a highly realistic depiction of Atlanta. :lol:
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I know some real Atlanta housewives and most are not at all like the TV show. There are a few, however...;) :mrgreen:
 
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VanceMack said:
Ive got family in Dekalb Co and in Atlanta. My wifes family owns some high end condos there. I grew up in Macon so Atlanta wasnt/isnt really my place but I know enough.
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OK so you know a thing or two.

I also know that many of those suburban counties are pretty fairly mixed. I'm not the one making this racial...I'm merely pointing out facts. Do YOU want to pretend that most of the high crime areas in West Atlanta area are NOT majority minority communities?
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You know what, that's a great point. And it naturally leads to my next question: Do you know a thing or two about white flight and racial segregation in Atlanta?
 
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GhostlyJoe said:
A fair reply, but let's be honest, you took way more time and care in researching your post than Trump did in his tweet or the poster I quoted did in defending him.
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Well, actually I just wikipedia'd 'U.S. city crime rates' - because I was genuinely curious how good/bad Atlanta's was.

And it is pretty bad. Not horrific...but not good at all.
 
Re: Trump to John Lewis: Fix your ‘horrible’ Atlanta district

VanceMack said:
Ive got family in Dekalb Co and in Atlanta. My wifes family owns some high end condos there. I grew up in Macon so Atlanta wasnt/isnt really my place but I know enough.

I also know that many of those suburban counties are pretty fairly mixed. I'm not the one making this racial...I'm merely pointing out facts. Do YOU want to pretend that most of the high crime areas in West Atlanta area are NOT majority minority communities?
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It's been years but I've had more than a little fun in Macon that I can't talk about. There was one great bar and two good restaurants and damned if I can remember the names of any of them now.
 
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Phys251 said:
OK so you know a thing or two.



You know what, that's a great point. And it naturally leads to my next question: Do you know a thing or two about white flight and racial segregation in Atlanta?
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I dont know all that much. I'm not an expert on Atlanta. I know its got problems like everyplace else. I know its got some good areas...hell...some really nice areas. I know that doesnt change things. I know the area that we built on out there was part of a restoration project and it is a much nicer place to live today than it was 15 years ago and part of that is due to more well to do folk (black and white) moving into the area.

I'm just responding. You went to the 'red state' argument...how am I NOT going to point out that a blue city like Atlanta completely skews the crime stats for the entire state? Thats like saying DC is a swell place to live because it has some really really ritzy rich people living there.
 
Re: Trump to John Lewis: Fix your ‘horrible’ Atlanta district

Risky Thicket said:
It's been years but I've had more than a little fun in Macon that I can't talk about. There was one great bar and two good restaurants and damned if I can remember the names of any of them now.
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If they had paved roads, we probably didnt find them. I used to run around with the Chitty family down there. Kinda rough folk. Loooong time ago. Man...
 
Re: Trump to John Lewis: Fix your ‘horrible’ Atlanta district

Risky Thicket said:
I know Atlanta. I grew up in Atlanta (Decatur), I went to school there. I have family there. I'm proud of Atlanta. Whenever I go back I feel just as safe as I ever have there.

Here is a question I'd like to ask all the Trumpers here: How much local control does a member of Congress have in the governance of their home district?
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Hi Risky, I am not a Trumper. I saw Trump's tweet in response to John Lewis' comments that he is not a legitimist president. So I did a little research online.

I checked out the 5th district of Georgia which entails 2/3 of Atlanta and a couple of suburbs. In Lewis' district that he has been re-elected 15 times is in dire straits. It turns out the overall crime rate in his district is 95% higher than the average of crimes committed in Georgia. It is also 131% higher than the national average. When it comes to violent crimes, Atlanta, GA shows a crime rate that is 196% higher than the Georgia average. The crime rate is also 200% higher than the national average. When it comes to property crimes, Atlanta, GA is shown to be 82% higher than the Georgia average and 121% higher than the national average.

Atlanta, GA Crime Rates & Statistics

To your question yes representatives have a major role in working toward jobs creation, education grants, and a slew of other things that will aid in their district. However Rep Lewis gets an F. And even a greater influence on the state to produce jobs and pull people out of welfare is the governor of any state so I did a search on governors for the state of Georgia. It appears that since 1876 after the civil war to 2002, Georgia has had a Democratic governor. That's 126 years. Republicans have only been serving in the governorship of Georgia for the last 14 years with 8 of them under Obama. A president and Democratic congress for two years shoved all kinds of entitlement monies through for districts like Mr. Lewis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_Georgia

Throughout these 126 years we had the Dixiecrats who found favor with Woodrow Wilson (D) in the Progressive era who was a friggin racist that segregated the Federal government on into the 60's where Georgia was one of the states that filibustered civil rights with other Dixiecrats in the 50's and 60's.


After a 126 years of Democratic leadership in Georgia, blacks which are the overwhelming majority in Lewis' district would think would have found economical opportunity! But they didn't.
 
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