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Michael Flynn in frequent contact with Russia's ambassador to U.S.

Tangmo said:
A three-star general who after he got on the job got ****canned retired because he went all bent out of shape against all of a single religion as the cause of all evil in the world.

You do know Potus Obama fired over a dozen generals and admirals who turned out to be loose cannon in their jobs, to include several four-stars.

Generals and admirals in civilian positions of the government has always been a dubious idea at best. If we don't elect 'em, then in general gon't appoint 'em. Flynn is a classic instance of an Army brass hat with a shiny nose that should never be in a public position of trust.
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It's like I say; the Trump administration has "Banana Republic" written all over it.
 
Tangmo said:
Right wing baloney so no matter how you slice it, it's still baloney. All you have is the standard boilerplate right wing tripe. The party line. The predictable recitation.

So CinC Obama said what Donald Trump has said many times -- you're fired...


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These 14 Senior Military Officers Screwed Up Big Time

Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Gregg A. Sturdevant failed to secure his base from a Taliban attack in Afghanistan.

Air Force Maj. Gen. Michael Carey misbehaved on an assignment. Commander, Air Force Global Strike Command. Carey was the man in charge of part of the Air Force’s arsenal of nuclear weapons when he was relieved of command following an investigation into his conduct during a temporary duty assignment.

Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Charles M.M. Gurganus neglected to implement security procedures that would have stopped a Taliban attack in Afghanistan.

Navy Vice Adm. Tim Giardina cheated at poker. Deputy Commander, U.S. Strategic Command, the number two man at the U.S.’s nuclear weapons command was sacked by President Obama himself amid revelations that he used counterfeit poker chips during a card game at a casino in Nebraska.

Retired Army Gen. David Petraeus had an affair. (Something about fingering over classified documents if you might recall.)

Senior Military Officers Who Screwed Up - Business Insider


There are 14 in all not counting the crackpot LTG Flynn who is certain an entire religion is responsible for all evil in the world and against the United States in particular.

= 15

Enough from over there.
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Well done. Congrats.
 
Jack Hays said:
It's part of the job. Flynn is a jerk who probably won't last long, but he's not wrong here.
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It's not part of the job for a staff member of an upcoming president to be making policy calls to foreign governments.

The bunch of 'em should keep their mouths shut UNTIL Trump takes the oath. THEN they can do their jobs.
 
Fishking said:
Oh...so right out in the open from a retired 3 start general. I thought you meant something that was like worrisome or shady. Gonna be a long 4 years for ya'll if this is what's going to get your panties in a wad.
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Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. Usurping the foreign policy of a sitting president is unAmerican at best.

None of those people should be calling any foreign governments until Jan 20th.
 
Fishking said:
Obama taking a diplomatic route with Iran has been one of the few things I've commended him for. Same thing with Cuba. Unfortunately, he has way undermined that with his neo-McCathyist attitude with Russia. As a country, we need to figure out how to use diplomacy better.
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Donald Trump has just right amount of thin skin needed to end up in a war with Russia more than any other President in history. You are being very naive. So is he.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Donald Trump has just right amount of thin skin needed to end up in a war with Russia more than any other President in history. You are being very naive. So is he.
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yeah...because the criticism against him has been that he's too hard-line against Russia and not being friendly enough /sarcasm.
 
jet57 said:
Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. Usurping the foreign policy of a sitting president is unAmerican at best.

None of those people should be calling any foreign governments until Jan 20th.
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The sooner Obama gets usurped the better.
 
jet57 said:
It's not part of the job for a staff member of an upcoming president to be making policy calls to foreign governments.

The bunch of 'em should keep their mouths shut UNTIL Trump takes the oath. THEN they can do their jobs.
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Staff members of incoming administrations routinely contact officials of foreign governments. Nothing new here.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Donald Trump has just right amount of thin skin needed to end up in a war with Russia more than any other President in history. You are being very naive. So is he.
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People can't seem to keep their criticism of Trump straight. Some are saying he's a Russian puppet and the rest are saying he's chmping at the bit to go to war with them.

:roll:
 
jet57 said:
Prove it.
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Just one example. Most such contacts are off the record. Trump himself has already spoken to dozens of foreign leaders.

". . . President Bush invited Obama to attend the 2008 G-20 Washington summit held between November 15 and 20, however Obama's transition team instead sent former Republican Rep. Jim Leach and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright to meet with the delegations.[SUP][14][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP] Obama was expected to address a United Nations global warming summit in Poland in December or allow a representative such as Al Gore to present his policies.[SUP][4]. . . "[/SUP]

Presidential transition of Barack Obama - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_transition_of_Barack_Obama



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Fishking said:
yeah...because the criticism against him has been that he's too hard-line against Russia and not being friendly enough /sarcasm.
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If he doesn't like it when CNN bothers him, I can't imagine how he'll react when Russia does something he doesn't like.

Maybe he just likes everything Russia does. Isn't that a lovely thought? /sarcasm
 
reinoe said:
People can't seem to keep their criticism of Trump straight. Some are saying he's a Russian puppet and the rest are saying he's chmping at the bit to go to war with them.

:roll:
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:lamo This is the same man who said he loves the media, and then called two of the biggest media outlets in the country fake news in the same press conference! :lamo
 
ModerateGOP said:
:lamo This is the same man who said he loves the media, and then called two of the biggest media outlets in the country fake news in the same press conference! :lamo
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You can love the media and criticize the two biggest media outlets in the world...just like how I can say I love pizza but can call out Pizza Hut for making their pizza taste like cardboard.
 
ModerateGOP said:
If he doesn't like it when CNN bothers him, I can't imagine how he'll react when Russia does something he doesn't like.

Maybe he just likes everything Russia does. Isn't that a lovely thought? /sarcasm
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He also gets over people being critical of him, pretty quickly. Look at some of the people who cut him down so badly and then he made amends with later.
 
Jack Hays said:
Just one example. Most such contacts are off the record. Trump himself has already spoken to dozens of foreign leaders.

". . . President Bush invited Obama to attend the 2008 G-20 Washington summit held between November 15 and 20, however Obama's transition team instead sent former Republican Rep. Jim Leach and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright to meet with the delegations.[SUP][14][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP] Obama was expected to address a United Nations global warming summit in Poland in December or allow a representative such as Al Gore to present his policies.[SUP][4]. . . "[/SUP]

Presidential transition of Barack Obama - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_transition_of_Barack_Obama



Jump to Foreign policy agenda - One of the principal foreign policy issues that Obama ran on during ... The Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, has said the Hamas government would accept ... A November 20, 2008, Los Angeles Times article stated, ... that Barack Obama's national security team will be dominated ...
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"President Bush invited Obama..."

President Obama invited Trump to the White House which is the common courtesy (and necessity).

That's it.

Trump meanwhile has been doing **** since November 8th that have put CinC Obama on a high alert, to include CCP Dictators in Beijing talking war and Putin sending a sucker punch letter to Trump wanking Trump much to the delight of each. For different reasons however and with different motives.
 
Fishking said:
He also gets over people being critical of him, pretty quickly. Look at some of the people who cut him down so badly and then he made amends with later.
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Yeah right, the idiot goes off every time anyone dares say anything disparaging about him, he is just another spoiled child.
 
Fishking said:
Sorry, most rational people don't believe Russia is the boogie man and that we need to have better relations so this dog isn't going to hunt.
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Russia's only a boogie man when we don't need it. When Obama wanted a vote favoring U.N. sanctions against Iran, it was all handshakes and smiles. Putin is no saint, but who's the real enemy here? The Russians or Islamist terrorists? We complained about the Russians not doing enough to attack ISIS, but when they sough to coordinate an assault against ISIS at Palmyra we refused to cooperate with them because we didn't want to be seen assisting them, the Assad regime, or the Iranian militias who ended up taking on the militants largely alone.
 
apdst said:
Yeah, it was ok for Obama to make friends with Putin. How about Putin's endorsement of Obama before the election? I bet you thought that was wonderful.
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Like wise is bad as a i recall that Obama was weak on Russia. But now that Trump is the weak one you are all for it?

And also as i recall Obama was a commie for his friendly policy with Russia. But Obama was nowhere near as close as trump is right now. So I guess then Trump is a commie too.
 
Tangmo said:
"President Bush invited Obama..."

President Obama invited Trump to the White House which is the common courtesy (and necessity).

That's it.

Trump meanwhile has been doing **** since November 8th that have put CinC Obama on a high alert, to include CCP Dictators in Beijing talking war and Putin sending a sucker punch letter to Trump wanking Trump much to the delight of each. For different reasons however and with different motives.
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Bush invited Obama to a summit conference, not just to the WH.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Like wise is bad as a i recall that Obama was weak on Russia. But now that Trump is the weak one you are all for it?

And also as i recall Obama was a commie for his friendly policy with Russia. But Obama was nowhere near as close as trump is right now. So I guess then Trump is a commie too.
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How has President Trump been weak on Russia?
 
ModerateGOP said:
One of the worst picks for his cabinent IMO policy wise is General Michael Flynn. Of course, most anybody associated with RTV is a bad egg in my book, so when he first started on the campaign trail for Trump, I didn't like it one bit.

Michael Flynn in frequent contact with Russia's ambassador to U.S. - CBS News

Russian Ambassador Invited Trump Administration to Syria Peace Talks as US Issued Sanctions - ABC News

Trump adviser had five calls with Russian envoy on day of sanctions: sources | Reuters


Top Trump Adviser Talks More Than Once With Russian Ambassador : NPR

Don't believe me? Here's a story from August: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-putin-and-why-russia-today-is-just-like-cnn/

You can't pretend now that it's all nicety nice... But of course the Trump supporters will fail to make the connections staring at them right in the face.
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So having connections is now a bad thing?? You TDS sufferers just can't find the bottom when it comes to how low you can sink. An intelligent person would see this as a positive, but the TDS sufferers just can't seem to bring themselves to accaept anything positive about Trump. You'll spin any positive around to be a negative for no other reason than finding a way to justify your hate.
 
jet57 said:
I don't think that's the point. The point is, while the president is acting in behalf of the US with regard to this hacking business, Trump's people are in contact with Russia...? Something's very wrong in that timing, and who's to say that Flynn wasn't giving Russia reassurances behind our country's back?

Can you just imagine of Obama had done something like this with, say Iran before HE took office? It's just outrageous.
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So guilt by association?? That's a pretty sad attempt. BTW - Pres. Obama's choices for these kind of positions had little to do with qualifications and lots to to do with identity. Now you have a President who puts qualification first and you just can't stand it....
 
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