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Michael Flynn in frequent contact with Russia's ambassador to U.S.

ModerateGOP said:
Yes. Now why don't you care that Trump is colluding with Russia, in the same manner and worse?
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What deal did President Trump unlawfully cut with Russia?
 
apdst said:
What deal did President Trump unlawfully cut with Russia?
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You really think he's going to keep the sanctions in place? I can't possibly think of what "Christmas Present" this new administration has in mind for Putin. How about no more sanctions?? And if members of Trump's team are found to have stronger ties with Russia than they already do, it could possibly be quid pro quo for helping with the election. I'm not saying it happened yet, and I'm not saying they hacked us, but there was a clear agenda to at least influence the US election. No matter how indirectly it may or may not have been.

So you never answered my original question, why doesn't this bother you?
 
ModerateGOP said:
You really think he's going to keep the sanctions in place? I can't possibly think of what "Christmas Present" this new administration has in mind for Putin. How about no more sanctions?? And if members of Trump's team are found to have stronger ties with Russia than they already do, it could possibly be quid pro quo for helping with the election. I'm not saying it happened yet, and I'm not saying they hacked us, but there was a clear agenda to at least influence the US election. No matter how indirectly it may or may not have been.

So you never answered my original question, why doesn't this bother you?
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You've had a hard on for President Trump since he announced his bid. This isn't anything more than a Trump-hate-thread. There's credible evidence of any wrongdoing, here.
 
apdst said:
You've had a hard on for President Trump since he announced his bid. This isn't anything more than a Trump-hate-thread. There's credible evidence of any wrongdoing, here.
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First this thread is about Flynn mainly. Second, Why doesn't this collusion bother you? Or are you just in denial that this even happened. I mean I wouldn't even think about sending a Merry Christmas message to an ambassador of a country that is waging civil war against their own people because they won't fall in line. I wonder why this doesn't bother Trump supporters more. If Obama had done this it would be headline making right-wing news!
 
****ing bizarre, right wingers view Russia as some sort of shining example of governed excellence. The only reason being is because Putin is an authoritarian borderline dictator and reich wingers are oppressive by nature and welcome any oppression as long as it's not their preferred demographics that are being oppressed.
 
ModerateGOP said:
First this thread is about Flynn mainly. Second, Why doesn't this collusion bother you? Or are you just in denial that this even happened. I mean I wouldn't even think about sending a Merry Christmas message to an ambassador of a country that is waging civil war against their own people because they won't fall in line. I wonder why this doesn't bother Trump supporters more. If Obama had done this it would be headline making right-wing news!
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Where's the collusion; point it out. I dare you.
 
HenryChinaski said:
****ing bizarre, right wingers view Russia as some sort of shining example of governed excellence. The only reason being is because Putin is an authoritarian borderline dictator and reich wingers are oppressive by nature and welcome any oppression as long as it's not their preferred demographics that are being oppressed.
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We do? Link?
 
apdst said:
Where's the collusion; point it out. I dare you.
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Already did. I explained it two you in like three different posts. You just can't admit that you would be self-destructing right now if Obama had sent a merry Christmas text message to the ayatollah.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Already did. I explained it two you in like three different posts. You just can't admit that you would be self-destructing right now if Obama had sent a merry Christmas text message to the ayatollah.
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No you didn't. Either post some actual evidence, or take the tearfest down the road.
 
Fishking said:
Sorry, most rational people don't believe Russia is the boogie man and that we need to have better relations so this dog isn't going to hunt.
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We shall see....

A month ago, 55% of Americans were concerned with the Russian hacking.

Poll: 55% of Americans bothered by Russian election hacking - CNNPolitics.com
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Until Trump man's up and Tweets "Putin is a failing dictator of a pissant third world country, so sad".... this is going to get worse. This is a knife in Trump's back and the Dems are going to twist it until he shows some actions consistent with an American President (don't hold your breath). His narcissism is too thick and his skin too thin... he can't look at this issue because its about questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election. He better do it soon, as its just going to get worse for him as there seems to a "there, there". Did the wikileaks leaks sway 42,500 votes in three states OR cause 85,000 Hillary voters to stay home? Pretty plausible.

We all know the Cons have no idea what a real scandal is (we saw that with all the petty things they tried to sell us the last 8 years), but they did figure out how to beat Hillary on Benghazi... and this thing is an atomic bomb to Benghazi's bb gun

You might like to read up. This is going to be in the news for quite sometime. It might be good to better understand it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_election_interference_by_Russia
 
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apdst said:
We do? Link?
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No links are required, right wing philosophy is oppressive by nature. If you look back through the history of the past centuries you can track oppression back to political or Monarchial empires, which have led to modern day attitudes and far right wing fascist movements. The theocratic right, regressive populism, and White racial nationalism make up a hard right political sector that is distinct from and sometimes in opposition to mainstream Republicanism. By nature they're antidemocratic, promoting in various combinations and to varying degrees authoritarianism, xenophobia, conspiracist theories, nativism, racism, sexism, homophobia, antisemitism, demagoguery, and scapegoating. Each wing of the antidemocratic right has a slightly different vision of the ideal nation. And Trump has spoonfed every bit of those demographics and now this country is going to be eating a big **** sandwich until he ****s up and ****s on himself.
 
HenryChinaski said:
No links are required, right wing philosophy is oppressive by nature. If you look back through the history of the past centuries you can track oppression back to political or Monarchial empires, which have led to modern day attitudes and far right wing fascist movements. The theocratic right, regressive populism, and White racial nationalism make up a hard right political sector that is distinct from and sometimes in opposition to mainstream Republicanism. By nature they're antidemocratic, promoting in various combinations and to varying degrees authoritarianism, xenophobia, conspiracist theories, nativism, racism, sexism, homophobia, antisemitism, demagoguery, and scapegoating. Each wing of the antidemocratic right has a slightly different vision of the ideal nation. And Trump has spoonfed every bit of those demographics and now this country is going to be eating a big **** sandwich until he ****s up and ****s on himself.
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IOW, you're just making it up as you go. We already knew that, though.
 
apdst said:
Actual evidence. An invitation to peace talks doesn't qualify and you know it.
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Like what? What constitutes evidence in your book?
Also, What evidence do you have that they are talking about peace talks? Donald Trump's tweets don't qualify and you know it!
 
ModerateGOP said:
And what evidence do you have that they are talking about peace talks? Donald Trump's tweets don't qualify and you know it!
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Are you serious? :lamo

You need yo change your username to, "FlamingLiberal".
 
apdst said:
Are you serious? :lamo

You need yo change your username to, "FlamingLiberal".
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Yes, because a flaming liberal is against the Iranian deal. :roll: Now. What evidence do you have? Show it.
 
apdst said:
The Russians inviting the next President of The United States to be a part of peace talks proves collusion? You can't be serious! :lamo
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and why is that the limit of the conversation?
 
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