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Republicans scramble to ease concerns about Obamacare replacement

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Kinda looks like the republicans are having second thoughts on killing 22 million American citizens…at least till they come up with a band-aid.:2wave:

<Republican leaders on Capitol Hill are scrambling to ease growing concerns among GOP lawmakers about rushing to repeal the federal health-care law before plans for a replacement take firmer shape, addressing complications to the effort to deliver on one of the party’s signature campaign promises.>
<In the Senate, where Republicans are using a budget package to move swiftly ahead with repeal, leaders are looking at ways to adjust their plans to address the skittishness that GOP senators have voiced in recent days.>


<Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the third-ranking Senate Republican, told reporters Monday that GOP members of the House, Senate and the incoming administration are having ongoing conversations as they formulate a “path forward” for addressing the health-care law.>
<“I would fully expect that a repeal vote could be followed by several proposals, many of which our members have been trying to get voted on for years. You might see this thing in a very step-by-step way as opposed to having one huge 2,700-page bill,” Thune said.>


<The amendment was introduced by Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska). Several of them have been outspoken about their reluctance to pursue repealing the law without having put forth plans for a replacement measure.>
<“I have great concerns that we inject a level of great uncertainty into an already uncertain environment if we don’t give people a clear indication as to what will come once we repeal,” Murkowski said Monday.>


<Still, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said that in a conversation with President-elect Donald Trump last week, the two agreed on the need to immediately tackle replacement.>
<“He showed willingness and openness and was interested in getting a replacement that could be passed as part of repeal,” Paul said. “Now, we’re trying to get a bill out there this week.”>
<Meanwhile, several lawmakers have floated the idea of breaking up the replacement into a handful of smaller parts.>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-ease-concerns-about-obamacare-replacement/
 
Donc said:
Kinda looks like the republicans are having second thoughts on killing 22 million American citizens…at least till they come up with a band-aid.:2wave:

<Republican leaders on Capitol Hill are scrambling to ease growing concerns among GOP lawmakers about rushing to repeal the federal health-care law before plans for a replacement take firmer shape, addressing complications to the effort to deliver on one of the party’s signature campaign promises.>
<In the Senate, where Republicans are using a budget package to move swiftly ahead with repeal, leaders are looking at ways to adjust their plans to address the skittishness that GOP senators have voiced in recent days.>


<Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the third-ranking Senate Republican, told reporters Monday that GOP members of the House, Senate and the incoming administration are having ongoing conversations as they formulate a “path forward” for addressing the health-care law.>
<“I would fully expect that a repeal vote could be followed by several proposals, many of which our members have been trying to get voted on for years. You might see this thing in a very step-by-step way as opposed to having one huge 2,700-page bill,” Thune said.>


<The amendment was introduced by Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska). Several of them have been outspoken about their reluctance to pursue repealing the law without having put forth plans for a replacement measure.>
<“I have great concerns that we inject a level of great uncertainty into an already uncertain environment if we don’t give people a clear indication as to what will come once we repeal,” Murkowski said Monday.>


<Still, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said that in a conversation with President-elect Donald Trump last week, the two agreed on the need to immediately tackle replacement.>
<“He showed willingness and openness and was interested in getting a replacement that could be passed as part of repeal,” Paul said. “Now, we’re trying to get a bill out there this week.”>
<Meanwhile, several lawmakers have floated the idea of breaking up the replacement into a handful of smaller parts.>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-ease-concerns-about-obamacare-replacement/
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"Kinda looks like the republicans are having second thoughts on killing 22 million American citizens"

I think you are underestimated the impact.
 
Just more political BS. WaPo printing the DNC talking points as if they were facts.


The GOP never said they would kick 20M people off of their insurance... THAT is what the PPACA actually DID. The GOP is going to take a stepped process (so they have said, we'll see) and no one will be kicked off of the insurance they have now. They may not get a government subsidy later on, but that may not be a bad thing.

“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

― Benjamin Franklin
 
Donc said:
Kinda looks like the republicans are having second thoughts on killing 22 million American citizens…at least till they come up with a band-aid.:2wave:

<Republican leaders on Capitol Hill are scrambling to ease growing concerns among GOP lawmakers about rushing to repeal the federal health-care law before plans for a replacement take firmer shape, addressing complications to the effort to deliver on one of the party’s signature campaign promises.>
<In the Senate, where Republicans are using a budget package to move swiftly ahead with repeal, leaders are looking at ways to adjust their plans to address the skittishness that GOP senators have voiced in recent days.>


<Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the third-ranking Senate Republican, told reporters Monday that GOP members of the House, Senate and the incoming administration are having ongoing conversations as they formulate a “path forward” for addressing the health-care law.>
<“I would fully expect that a repeal vote could be followed by several proposals, many of which our members have been trying to get voted on for years. You might see this thing in a very step-by-step way as opposed to having one huge 2,700-page bill,” Thune said.>


<The amendment was introduced by Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska). Several of them have been outspoken about their reluctance to pursue repealing the law without having put forth plans for a replacement measure.>
<“I have great concerns that we inject a level of great uncertainty into an already uncertain environment if we don’t give people a clear indication as to what will come once we repeal,” Murkowski said Monday.>


<Still, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said that in a conversation with President-elect Donald Trump last week, the two agreed on the need to immediately tackle replacement.>
<“He showed willingness and openness and was interested in getting a replacement that could be passed as part of repeal,” Paul said. “Now, we’re trying to get a bill out there this week.”>
<Meanwhile, several lawmakers have floated the idea of breaking up the replacement into a handful of smaller parts.>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-ease-concerns-about-obamacare-replacement/
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Republicans want to " KILL " 22 Million Americans ?


What kind of partisan trash thread is this ? It should be flushed at least to the partisan section of the forum
 
Donc said:
Kinda looks like the republicans are having second thoughts on killing 22 million American citizens…at least till they come up with a band-aid.:2wave:

<Republican leaders on Capitol Hill are scrambling to ease growing concerns among GOP lawmakers about rushing to repeal the federal health-care law before plans for a replacement take firmer shape, addressing complications to the effort to deliver on one of the party’s signature campaign promises.>
<In the Senate, where Republicans are using a budget package to move swiftly ahead with repeal, leaders are looking at ways to adjust their plans to address the skittishness that GOP senators have voiced in recent days.>


<Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the third-ranking Senate Republican, told reporters Monday that GOP members of the House, Senate and the incoming administration are having ongoing conversations as they formulate a “path forward” for addressing the health-care law.>
<“I would fully expect that a repeal vote could be followed by several proposals, many of which our members have been trying to get voted on for years. You might see this thing in a very step-by-step way as opposed to having one huge 2,700-page bill,” Thune said.>


<The amendment was introduced by Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska). Several of them have been outspoken about their reluctance to pursue repealing the law without having put forth plans for a replacement measure.>
<“I have great concerns that we inject a level of great uncertainty into an already uncertain environment if we don’t give people a clear indication as to what will come once we repeal,” Murkowski said Monday.>


<Still, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said that in a conversation with President-elect Donald Trump last week, the two agreed on the need to immediately tackle replacement.>
<“He showed willingness and openness and was interested in getting a replacement that could be passed as part of repeal,” Paul said. “Now, we’re trying to get a bill out there this week.”>
<Meanwhile, several lawmakers have floated the idea of breaking up the replacement into a handful of smaller parts.>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-ease-concerns-about-obamacare-replacement/
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More partisan garbage from the Post! Yawn.......
 
I'd be interested to see the Republican plan to kill 22 million Americans. How would they accomplish that? Firing squad, gas chambers, mass starvation? Sounds so ominous. How do you have this fascinating inside scoop?
 
Donc said:
Kinda looks like the republicans are having second thoughts on killing 22 million American citizens…at least till they come up with a band-aid.:2wave:

<Republican leaders on Capitol Hill are scrambling to ease growing concerns among GOP lawmakers about rushing to repeal the federal health-care law before plans for a replacement take firmer shape, addressing complications to the effort to deliver on one of the party’s signature campaign promises.>
<In the Senate, where Republicans are using a budget package to move swiftly ahead with repeal, leaders are looking at ways to adjust their plans to address the skittishness that GOP senators have voiced in recent days.>


<Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the third-ranking Senate Republican, told reporters Monday that GOP members of the House, Senate and the incoming administration are having ongoing conversations as they formulate a “path forward” for addressing the health-care law.>
<“I would fully expect that a repeal vote could be followed by several proposals, many of which our members have been trying to get voted on for years. You might see this thing in a very step-by-step way as opposed to having one huge 2,700-page bill,” Thune said.>


<The amendment was introduced by Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska). Several of them have been outspoken about their reluctance to pursue repealing the law without having put forth plans for a replacement measure.>
<“I have great concerns that we inject a level of great uncertainty into an already uncertain environment if we don’t give people a clear indication as to what will come once we repeal,” Murkowski said Monday.>


<Still, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said that in a conversation with President-elect Donald Trump last week, the two agreed on the need to immediately tackle replacement.>
<“He showed willingness and openness and was interested in getting a replacement that could be passed as part of repeal,” Paul said. “Now, we’re trying to get a bill out there this week.”>
<Meanwhile, several lawmakers have floated the idea of breaking up the replacement into a handful of smaller parts.>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-ease-concerns-about-obamacare-replacement/
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Im not seeing the scrambling. I see a methodical approach that includes debate and thoughtfulness but i guess that doesnt sound as good to the left as scrambling does.

I also love how the media portrays it like all of america is in a panic about undoing obamacare when the reality is that the majority of us are excited for it to be repealed. They are demanding it be replaced, we are demanding it be REPEALED.

I support them taking an incrimental approach to undoing it same as how it got implimented. Abrupt change is typically not a good idea.

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So who's spread FUD? Fear mongering?

What a load of bull****. Must be some of this 'fake news' we've heard so much about.
 
Donc said:
Republicans scramble to ease concerns obamacare replacement

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-ease-concerns-about-obamacare-replacement/[/FONT][/COLOR]
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The only scrambling is the Demokrat party and their propagandists after having been thumped a month ago.

They still haven't figured it out yet.

ObamaKare... will be repealed and replaced.. and with it, Obama's legacy.

Demokrats don't like it... we understand that.

Senate Democrats take to Facebook and the floor in a talkathon against Obamacare repeal

Their talkathon lasted a whole 5-hours... which shows their staying powers... LOL.

To be sure, R's don't have All the answers yet... but one answer everyone can agree on is:

Obamakare is a disaster based on lies, deceit, and one party shoving it down the throats of Americans.

Soon it will be gone. :)

And replaced with something that will be known by the public before it's passed.
 
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The Republicans are not scrambling, but they are coming out vocally to thwart the BS the left MSM and Democrats spewing untruths.

The vote on Obamacare will happen at the end of this week in the Senate and then it will move to the House for a vote. Other legislation is being prepared and will be voted on that will allow affordable coverage something Obamacare failed to do.
 
Donc said:
Kinda looks like the republicans are having second thoughts on killing 22 million American citizens…at least till they come up with a band-aid.:2wave:

<Republican leaders on Capitol Hill are scrambling to ease growing concerns among GOP lawmakers about rushing to repeal the federal health-care law before plans for a replacement take firmer shape, addressing complications to the effort to deliver on one of the party’s signature campaign promises.>
<In the Senate, where Republicans are using a budget package to move swiftly ahead with repeal, leaders are looking at ways to adjust their plans to address the skittishness that GOP senators have voiced in recent days.>


<Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the third-ranking Senate Republican, told reporters Monday that GOP members of the House, Senate and the incoming administration are having ongoing conversations as they formulate a “path forward” for addressing the health-care law.>
<“I would fully expect that a repeal vote could be followed by several proposals, many of which our members have been trying to get voted on for years. You might see this thing in a very step-by-step way as opposed to having one huge 2,700-page bill,” Thune said.>


<The amendment was introduced by Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska). Several of them have been outspoken about their reluctance to pursue repealing the law without having put forth plans for a replacement measure.>
<“I have great concerns that we inject a level of great uncertainty into an already uncertain environment if we don’t give people a clear indication as to what will come once we repeal,” Murkowski said Monday.>


<Still, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said that in a conversation with President-elect Donald Trump last week, the two agreed on the need to immediately tackle replacement.>
<“He showed willingness and openness and was interested in getting a replacement that could be passed as part of repeal,” Paul said. “Now, we’re trying to get a bill out there this week.”>
<Meanwhile, several lawmakers have floated the idea of breaking up the replacement into a handful of smaller parts.>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-ease-concerns-about-obamacare-replacement/
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Just a note, if you want people to listen you do not start out by making wild arse claims. Notice how many have not actually replied to the meat of what you posted, maybe next time eh.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
"Kinda looks like the republicans are having second thoughts on killing 22 million American citizens"

I think you are underestimated the impact.
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Could have.This 2009 study by Harvard found that 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage.:2wave:
 
Fenton said:
Republicans want to " KILL " 22 Million Americans ?


What kind of partisan trash thread is this ? It should be flushed at least to the partisan section of the forum
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Its breaking news isn’t it?Anything that you would like to add other then it is in the wrong place?
 
Casper said:
Just a note, if you want people to listen you do not start out by making at least till they come up with a band-aid. Notice how many have not actually replied to the meat of what you posted, maybe next time eh.
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The only thing that I CLAIMED was" at least till they come up with a band-aid."WADE in and tell me why THAT was a "wild arse claim".Is it that they have nothing to add that would meet or exceed BOcare?OR perhaps you feel that a band-aid would exceed their limited VERY LIMITED capabilities?:2wave:
 
Donc said:
The only thing that I CLAIMED was" at least till they come up with a band-aid."WADE in and tell me why THAT was a "wild arse claim".Is it that they have nothing to add that would meet or exceed BOcare?OR perhaps you feel that a band-aid would exceed their limited VERY LIMITED capabilities?:2wave:
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The wild arse claim is that Repubs want to kill 22,000,000 Americans. Neither you nor I know what they are going to replace it with, but replacing it they will have to do, going backwards is no longer an option for either side. You may have issues with our Republican brothers and sisters, but I do not, they are not the ogres some want to make them out to be, they are our neighbors, family, and friends and fellow citizens and to say they want to kill millions of Americans is just dishonest. ACA was flawed and was so from day 1, some say fix it, but I cannot see how that can be done since the government cannot control what deductibles insurance companies set for their plans meaning many of those plans are nearly useless, because without the huge federal subsidies those plans are unaffordable by most, and without a mandate to force people to buy insurance the plan is cannot be sustained. In the long run I see no alternative to going to a single-payer plan such as they have in every other western Nation and most of the rest of the civilized world, I just hope that we are smart enough to set up something that takes the good points of those plans and throws out the bad. Oh, we may try a bandaide and/or other alternatives but in the end I think we will be forced to follow the worlds lead if we really want to address the issue, we just have to go through our kicking and screaming phase first. My guess it will be similar to Medicare, where the coverage covers most expenses, but one still needs a supplemental plan to cover the rest or voluntary type procedures, but at this point it is too early to know what we will end up with. Hey, at least the issue is being addressed, and in the long run will have to be dealt with in a way that all Americans can get healthcare coverage if it is not new people will be installed and they will have to keep trying. The problem was not made in a day and it will not be fixed in one, wait and see what comes next.:2wave:
 
Donc said:
Could have.This 2009 study by Harvard found that 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage.:2wave:
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Oh, 45,000 is less than 22 million. Have any sources with a bigger number? The bigger the better.
 
tres borrachos said:
Can I see the study that shows that 45,000 fewer people are dying every year thanks to Obamacare? Appreciate it.
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Most of the lives saved so far (~87,000) have been because of changes in hospital care. We're likely years away from seeing the data on the impact of the coverage expansion piece of the law, but results from first four years of the Massachusetts coverage expansions on which the ACA was modeled suggest the number could be around 17,000 few deaths per year.
 
Greenbeard said:
Most of the lives saved so far (~87,000) have been because of changes in hospital care. We're likely years away from seeing the data on the impact of the coverage expansion piece of the law, but results from first four years of the Massachusetts coverage expansions on which the ACA was modeled suggest the number could be around 17,000 few deaths per year.
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Dr. Benjamin Sommers, the lead author and a health economist and physician at the Harvard School of Public Health, cautioned that researchers did not have individual data on the 270,000 people who had gained insurance in the state, and could not tell for sure whether it was the expansion that had driven the mortality decline.

and

Researchers have long debated whether having health insurance and better access to medical care saves lives, but it has been hard to construct a study to settle the issue. In 2002, the Institute of Medicine estimated that a lack of health insurance was responsible for 18,000 deaths a year in the United States. But in 2009, a researcher from the University of California found that the survival rate of uninsured people resembled that of insured people.

There's no question that expanding healthcare for the poor or uninsured does help. But it still doesn't square with the claim that the Republicans want 22 million people dead.
 
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