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Airline to use Tasers for unruly passengers

apdst said:
Would you agree that hijackers are, indeed, unruly passengers?

The aircrews deem unruly passengers a safety hazard to the aircraft and passengers what the hell do they know, right? They only fly airplanes for a living.
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lol seriously....a child is unruly

un·ru·ly
ˌənˈro͞olē/
adjective
adjective: unruly; comparative adjective: unrulier; superlative adjective: unruliest

disorderly and disruptive and not amenable to discipline or control.

if you consider the intent to murder and down a plane is unruly then you are completely lost in space dude
 
Deuce said:
No, in that case they were murderous passengers. Calling hijackers "unruly" is like calling ISIS "a bunch of rude fellows." It's a dumb thing to say.

Nobody is saying you shouldn't deal with unruly passengers. They're saying that sleeping gas is a stupid idea in a sealed, pressurized tube full of people.

I'm a pilot, and I'm not ok with murdering my own passengers who weren't even involved with the altercation. I know, call me crazy.
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yes :thumbs:

the ability to discern and use common sense has gone

god help us all
 
_Sal said:
lol seriously....a child is unruly

un·ru·ly
ˌənˈro͞olē/
adjective
adjective: unruly; comparative adjective: unrulier; superlative adjective: unruliest

disorderly and disruptive and not amenable to discipline or control.

if you consider the intent to murder and down a plane is unruly then you are completely lost in space dude
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Are hijackers, "disorderly and disruptive and not amenable to discipline or control."? I would say so.

Anyway, Jetboogie said that never before in, "aviation history", had an unruly passenger caused an airplane crash. Obviously it was an erroneous statement.
 
apdst said:
Anyway, Jetboogie said that never before in, "aviation history", had an unruly passenger caused an airplane crash. Obviously it was an erroneous statement.
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Let's get off of this, because I know you'd love nothing more than to change the definitions of words.

So, you decided to interject over the point about sleeping gas, for no reason.

So let's use a Boeing 757 as our example, travelling at 35, 000 Feet, what gas are you going to use specifically as your sleeping agent?
 
Deuce said:
No, in that case they were murderous passengers. Calling hijackers "unruly" is like calling ISIS "a bunch of rude fellows." It's a dumb thing to say.

Nobody is saying you shouldn't deal with unruly passengers. They're saying that sleeping gas is a stupid idea in a sealed, pressurized tube full of people.

I'm a pilot, and I'm not ok with murdering my own passengers who weren't even involved with the altercation. I know, call me crazy.
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You would rather be caught defenseless during a hijacking? Oh, wait, you probably want warplanes to splash your aircraft in the event of a hijacking. Right?

What if the flight crew had had tasers on 9/11? Mighta saved no telling how many lives. Yes?
 
apdst said:
Are hijackers, "disorderly and disruptive and not amenable to discipline or control."? I would say so.
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yes I see that

and the problem here is "degree" and honestly I am seeing this issue on this particular site more and more...a desperation to prove a point with zero understanding or acknowledgement of degree

it means you lose your argument



Anyway, Jetboogie said that never before in, "aviation history", had an unruly passenger caused an airplane crash. Obviously it was an erroneous statement.
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NO, it was unequivocally correct, the fact that you do not understand that or why is not his problem or mine
 
Jetboogieman said:
Let's get off of this, because I know you'd love nothing more than to change the definitions of words.

So, you decided to interject over the point about sleeping gas, for no reason.

So let's use a Boeing 757 as our example, travelling at 35, 000 Feet, what gas are you going to use specifically as your sleeping agent?
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No gas required. Depressurize the passenger compartment. Everyone would pass out in a few minutes.
 
_Sal said:
yes I see that

and the problem here is "degree" and honestly I am seeing this issue on this particular site more and more...a desperation to prove a point with zero understanding or acknowledgement of degree

it means you lose your argument



NO, it was unequivocally correct, the fact that you do not understand that or why is not his problem or mine
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Why didn't you just say, "degree"?
 
apdst said:
No gas required. Depressurize the passenger compartment. Everyone would pass out in a few minutes.
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_Sal said:
degree dude

:shrug:

how would I know you would get it

next time I will
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No, you just wanted to post some vitriol, insults, cheap shots. You had no intention (ability?) to acctually have a conversation.
 
apdst said:
No, you just wanted to post some vitriol, insults, cheap shots. You had no intention (ability?) to acctually have a conversation.
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no, you posted something and had ZERO understanding of the situation and you got busted

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and then you posted this vitriol

you lost and look stupid

not my fault
 
Jetboogieman said:
You're going to argue with me for the sake of arguing with me on this one :shrug:

There's no way pumping a pressurized cabin full of knockout gas at 35, 000 feet is going to go over well... For anyone.

oh and by the way, you'd be hard pressed to find a single instance, of an unruly passenger on a commercial airliner causing a crash in the history of civilian aviation.
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Depends on how you define unruly.
 
Moderate Right said:
Depends on how you define unruly.
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"Unruly" is the guy who worked his way up to his 7th Mini Smirnoff (on top of the 3 Daiquiris he had in the airport lounge) before deciding to take a crap in the aisle. :shrug:

And sure, Tazer that asshole for all I care.
 
apdst said:
Would you agree that hijackers are, indeed, unruly passengers?

The aircrews deem unruly passengers a safety hazard to the aircraft and passengers what the hell do they know, right? They only fly airplanes for a living.
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There is more to the Story!!!

An unruly passenger aboard Korean Air Video of the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZPCxhp7TK0


Korean Air Revises Taser Rules After Singer's Tirade
Korean Air Revises Taser Rules After Singer's Tirade : The Two-Way : NPR
 
Jetboogieman said:
"Unruly" is the guy who worked his way up to his 7th Mini Smirnoff (on top of the 3 Daiquiris he had in the airport lounge) before deciding to take a crap in the aisle. :shrug:
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That is just one example of unruly. There have been many people who were totally sober who were unruly. There are no first amendment rights on an airplane either, as the gay guy on Ivanka Trump's plane recently found out.
 
apdst said:
You would rather be caught defenseless during a hijacking? Oh, wait, you probably want warplanes to splash your aircraft in the event of a hijacking. Right?

What if the flight crew had had tasers on 9/11? Mighta saved no telling how many lives. Yes?
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Right. Because my choices are "fill sealed tube full of people with toxic gas" and "do absolutely nothing."

That's it. The only choices apst can come up with.

But hey, since we're playing the dumb question game: are you seriously suggesting the best response to a loud, drunk passenger is to expose them and infants to a toxic gas?
 
Deuce said:
Right. Because my choices are "fill sealed tube full of people with toxic gas" and "do absolutely nothing."

That's it. The only choices apst can come up with.

But hey, since we're playing the dumb question game: are you seriously suggesting the best response to a loud, drunk passenger is to expose them and infants to a toxic gas?
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Deuce, you're always the first one to come in screaming, "that won't work!". It's surprising to me that you're a pilot. Every pilot I knew was a type A personality and a problem solver, snot a solution pisser.
 
Korean Passenger Violently Acting Out.jpg

Korean Air Flight Attendants & Celebrities Subdue Unruly Passenger With Taser & Rope
 
Jetboogieman said:
"Unruly" is the guy who worked his way up to his 7th Mini Smirnoff (on top of the 3 Daiquiris he had in the airport lounge) before deciding to take a crap in the aisle. :shrug:

And sure, Tazer that asshole for all I care.
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Unruly is the guy who tries to open the fuselage door, at 35,000 feet.
 
Deuce said:
No, in that case they were murderous passengers. Calling hijackers "unruly" is like calling ISIS "a bunch of rude fellows." It's a dumb thing to say.

Nobody is saying you shouldn't deal with unruly passengers. They're saying that sleeping gas is a stupid idea in a sealed, pressurized tube full of people.

I'm a pilot, and I'm not ok with murdering my own passengers who weren't even involved with the altercation. I know, call me crazy.
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But I thought ISIS was the JV team :p
 
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