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Trump in Exclusiv Interview, Tells WSJ He's Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health Law

Re: Trump in Exclusiv Interview, Tells WSJ He's Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health

Excon said:
Obviously you are.
Changed his mind? Hilarious.
No, simply no.
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Yes simply Yes.
It's that way in every really News story- except the garbage you try to read.
ie
Trump and advisers Hedge on Major Pledges, including Obamacare and the Wall
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...96b364-a82f-11e6-8fc0-7be8f848c492_story.html

You can't debate me!

excon said:
As usual your empty argumentative clownery..
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The usual Juvenile, just repeating my charge/words in reverse. excon's version of "you mama".
About as mature as his posting gets.


excon said:
Let me guess, when you hear a Presidential candidate say they are going to repeal something you obviously think that means they are actually going to repeal it, right?
In stead of being rational and thinking that they cant repeal it because that power doesn't reside with them. So what it means is that they are going to try and to get it repealed which means working with Congress, and with what they want to do.
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He doesn't have a congress yet.
More excon Clownery
He turned on a Dime in ONE DAY... after saying it 100 Times.
"Coincidentally" after meeting with Obama.
That's excon's 'position.'
And DISHONEST mischaracterization/preposterous proffer.


excon said:
1. As already pointed out, you can't show any of that to be true.
So yeah, brilliant as compared to the nonsensical claims you made.
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I just did point out he turned on a dime Immediately after meeting Obama after 18 months of saying opposite.
You need a flashlight. (to be kind)


excon said:
I pointed out that both topics were of the [U ]same subject[/U].
Your referencing the original interview is irrelevant to the fact that both were about that same interview.
The frailty of your position is exposed by your attempt to even argue this.
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I pointed out that even if they were, that's NOT a problem especially if different sections.
(DUHgain), many same topics run simultaneously in several sections, especially alongside BN.
Mine was clearly topically titled, in the right section, and was the Original source, UNlike the other.
NO ANSWER.

In fact, Someone has since started another in GP since! At 10 PM.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/270176-you-like-trump-now.html
Go get em boy!
Hit the button.
RRRRRROUGH!


excon said:
Your empty hostile responses ...
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My responses are never empty, while yours are just Combative BreitBark.
You were just pissed your Boy was Caught Lying/doing a 180... and so soon/instantly.
If there were two stories on Hillary emails, you would do your usual piling on, but you you had a chit fit that Trumptanic hit another Iceberg.
Kinda like you trying to debate me.

Oh, and thanks for the page top and Bump! (and making me look good. Always nice to have a weak opponents/straightmen)
With your further help, Goofy errors/disastrous posts, we can make mine the string of record, and destroy your credibility at the same time.
Tho ever since you came with your Trayvon/George obsession, it's gotten only worse: spreading your low brow Right wing garbage all over the board as that Race-baiting string lapsed.
 
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reinoe said:
Of course the wall isn't being built. Sure some people really did believe that, but most people don't: just like how most people already knew you can't do a full repeal of the ACA. What you can do is fix the things about our insurance that is broken. Obama had plenty of time to do that and he didn't. Of course he created that mess in he first place too.
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Of course NOTHING he said is true.
So what if he said "wall" 200 times and "repeal" another 200.
Are you saying he's too stupid to have realized that until yesterday?.. or Lying?
 
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mbig said:
It's HUGE News my apologetics GOP friend.
He's willing to merely Amend something that was going in the waste basket on Day 1.
This was just the First PILLAR to fall.
Expect 'wall' and other 100% promises to follow.
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Where you as giddy when you finally realized that your premiums really didn't drop $2500.00 a year like Odumbo promised?

There are more people now who cannot afford the copay when their kids are sick?
 
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mbig said:
Of course NOTHING he said is true.
So what if he said "wall" 200 times and "repeal" another 200.
Are you saying he's too stupid to have realized that until yesterday?.. or Lying?
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mbig,

If you spent the time trying to LISTEN to what Trump was saying, instead of flipping through soundbites trying to catch flash card examples of racism / sexism / whatever-isms that the MM constantly barraged us with, you would know that these things were what he suggested, almost since the start of his campaign. Including the wall, which if you, again, actually LISTENED and also READ about his platform, was always a combination of enforcement and policy. Not a literal Great Wall of America for crying out loud.

When he said "the wall just got 10 feet taller" in response to the Mexican "president" (talk about ****ty leadership), it doesn't mean we literally pile on an additional 10 feet of rebar and concrete. It means making it even more difficult than he was planning for illegal immigrants to leech off us here, which he stated in following speeches by proceeding to add dropping federal funding in his speeches and policy platform for sanctuary cities. Anyone with half a brain would understand that.

Just because much of HRC's public and private speeches were PC and lacked the use of bombastic language doesn't mean her policies were any good. What did she have to offer? "Continue where we left off", "more of the same". That was basically it.

And it's not she like didn't slip up either (superpredators anyone?).
 
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Battalion said:
Including the wall, which if you, again, actually LISTENED and also READ about his platform, was always a combination of enforcement and policy. Not a literal Great Wall of America for crying out loud.
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From a purely psychological point of view, the most interesting part of the next few years will be watching Trump wipe and re-wipe the memories of people like you. It will be an interesting experiment in how fungible the human mind really is.
 
Re: Trump in Exclusiv Interview, Tells WSJ He's Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health

mbig said:
Of course NOTHING he said is true.
So what if he said "wall" 200 times and "repeal" another 200.
Are you saying he's too stupid to have realized that until yesterday?.. or Lying?
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Yep. Just like Hillary promised to go after Big Banks and she gave speeches to them behind closed doors and told them to "knock it off". Just like how Hillary said she was definitely against the TPP. Just like Bernie and Hillary said that college will be debt free for all students!

Whenever a politician is promising free bread and circuses they're definitely lying. However that's when the SENTIMENT of the staement comes into effect. Bernie would genuinely have done what he could to make college more affordable while Hillary was obviously lying about "affordable college", going after banks, and the TPP. Trump will never build a wall but he will definitely enforce our immigration laws. Trump cannot repeal the ACA but he will definitely fix it. Common sense is to do this with ALL POLITICIANS. I'm not being selective here. I literally do this with all candidates. If you have a problem with Trump winning the election then you should have nominated Bernie Sanders in a heartbeat.
 
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Battalion said:
mbig,

If you spent the time trying to LISTEN to what Trump was saying, instead of flipping through soundbites trying to catch flash card examples of racism / sexism / whatever-isms that the MM constantly barraged us with, you would know that these things were what he suggested, almost since the start of his campaign. Including the wall, which if you, again, actually LISTENED and also READ about his platform, was always a combination of enforcement and policy. Not a literal Great Wall of America for crying out loud.

When he said "the wall just got 10 feet taller" in response to the Mexican "president" (talk about ****ty leadership), it doesn't mean we literally pile on an additional 10 feet of rebar and concrete. It means making it even more difficult than he was planning for illegal immigrants to leech off us here, which he stated in following speeches by proceeding to add dropping federal funding in his speeches and policy platform for sanctuary cities. Anyone with half a brain would understand that.

Just because much of HRC's public and private speeches were PC and lacked the use of bombastic language doesn't mean her policies were any good. What did she have to offer? "Continue where we left off", "more of the same". That was basically it.

And it's not she like didn't slip up either (superpredators anyone?).
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Exactly. The wall was never going to be built in a literaly sense. People are being ****ing obtuse about the whole thing. It's obvious what he was going to do.
 
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Excon said:
You are wrong on both.
They can be done, what matters is if Congress will allow it to be done.
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Yes "can" and "will" are to different things. I "can" go out there and get myself addicted to painkillers and meth that doesn't mean I will. Trump "can" do a full repeal of the ACA but that doesn't mean he "will". Just because a thing "can" be done doesn't mean it "should" be done. But it doesn't matter in this instance. Even if Trump does do a full repeal of the ACA that doesn't preclude him from keeping the pre-existing condition exclusion so the liberals crowing about how Trump has already backed off from her earlier promise are off-base anyway.
 
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reinoe said:
Yes "can" and "will" are to different things. I "can" go out there and get myself addicted to painkillers and meth that doesn't mean I will. Trump "can" do a full repeal of the ACA but that doesn't mean he "will". Just because a thing "can" be done doesn't mean it "should" be done.
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Which of course is why saying he wont and he can't are just wrong.


reinoe said:
But it doesn't matter in this instance. Even if Trump does do a full repeal of the ACA that doesn't preclude him from keeping the pre-existing condition exclusion so the liberals crowing about how Trump has already backed off from her earlier promise are off-base anyway.
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Your thoughts here are pretty much irrelevant to that which you are replying.
As for "full repeal" not precluding him from keeping? The very language used says otherwise.
A full repeal would do that as that provision would have been repealed.
What it wouldn't do is stop him or Congress from trying to implement it in new legislation.
 
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NonoBadDog said:
I wouldn't be surprised if they drew up a new plan that incorporated part of ObamaCare with some major changes (allowing interstate sales) and called it TrumpCare.
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This is what I am expecting.
He will keep the two parts that most people do not have issues with but are not the
Real issues.

I figure he is getting with Ryan to give him an alternative and that will be it.
 
Re: Trump in Exclusiv Interview, Tells WSJ He's Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health

Nothing you said in reply supports your any of your previous arguments, the whole post is nothing but a dishonest deflection from reality.

mbig said:
Yes simply Yes.
It's that way in every really News story- except the garbage you try to read.
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Wrong again.

In no article does it say he went back on any promise he made. For some reason you can't grasp that.


mbig said:
You can't debate me!
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A juvenile and egotistical comment while being wrong. Absolutely hilarious.

Hell, you are not even debating. You are just making climes you can not support.


mbig said:
The usual Juvenile, just repeating my charge/words in reverse. excon's version of "you mama".
About as mature as his posting gets.
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Your comments where juvenile to begin with and really only applied to you.
Dismissal or throwing them back in your face is more than justified as apparently it is the only thing you understand.


mbig said:
He doesn't have a congress yet.
More excon Clownery
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Oh look more clownery on your part. Like I said, your juvenile bs deserves to be thrown back at you.

Your comment is irrelevant to what was said.
You simply can't debate.


mbig said:
He turned on a Dime in ONE DAY... after saying it 100 Times.
"Coincidentally" after meeting with Obama.
That's excon's 'position.'
And DISHONEST mischaracterization/preposterous proffer.
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iLOL Now you are yelling like a juvenile does. You know that juveniles do that too, right?
The real dishonesty here is in what you said. There was no turning on dime. That is a completely stupid comment.


mbig said:
I just did point out he turned on a dime Immediately after meeting Obama after 18 months of saying opposite.
You need a flashlight. (to be kind)
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iLOL
You need a clue as you are spewing lies. He did not turn on a dime.


mbig said:
I pointed out that even if they were, that's NOT a problem especially if different sections.
(DUHgain), many same topics run simultaneously in several sections, especially alongside BN.
Mine was clearly topically titled, in the right section, and was the Original source, UNlike the other.
NO ANSWER.

In fact, Someone has since started another in GP since! At 10 PM.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/270176-you-like-trump-now.html
Go get em boy!
Hit the button.
RRRRRROUGH!
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No answer? Wrong. In addition, your rantings in this regard have been irrelevant to what was pointing out.
You simply couldn't be bothered to look before posting and are now all butt hurt because someone dared point it the subject was being discussed elsewhere.
Truly sad.


mbig said:
My responses are never empty,
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iLOL
So you engage in delusional behavior as well, figures. It sure does explain a lot.


mbig said:
You were just pissed your Boy was Caught Lying/doing a 180... and so soon/instantly.
If there were two stories on Hillary emails, you would do your usual piling on, but you you had a chit fit that Trumptanic hit another Iceberg.
Kinda like you trying to debate me.
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Clearly you have no clue as to what you speak. It is actually funny reading the bs you spew.

Oh look, more words that just apply to you.


Oh, and thanks for ... making me look good. Always nice to have a weak opponents/straightmen)
With your further help, Goofy errors/disastrous posts, we can make mine the string of record, and destroy your credibility at the same time.
Tho ever since you came with your Trayvon/George obsession, it's gotten only worse: spreading your low brow ... garbage all over the board ...

mbig said:
as that Race-baiting string lapsed.
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Delusion.
You keep believing in them as apparently that is all you have.
 
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Above the typical Dishonest and Juvenile [NON] reply of "Excon." (no less!)
'Replying' to my justified points and characterizations (He Omitted/Dishonestly 'short quoted')... with merely his empty ones, but adding the same tu quoque characterizations in his goofy replies.
The High School version of "No, Yo Momma".. with no meat.

This is the level of his combative but empty Breitbark 'replies' here and everywhere.
Generally, I'll be replying to him only as I do with many of the ilk: to use/embarrass him as a 'straightman' in making my points, or just to bump my string.
Thx for everyone else's indulgence.
His board blight came here as a Trayvon/George 'poster' and not much has changed.
 
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Greenbeard said:


From a purely psychological point of view, the most interesting part of the next few years will be watching Trump wipe and re-wipe the memories of people like you. It will be an interesting experiment in how fungible the human mind really is.
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That experiement already passed.

Because Romney spoke out against Trump during the republican primaries, he was a great man, and a fine example of a good Republican.

But when he ran against Obama.... he was going to, "But ya'll back in chains!!!"
 
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reinoe said:
Yep. Just like Hillary promised to go after Big Banks and she gave speeches to them behind closed doors and told them to "knock it off". Just like how Hillary said she was definitely against the TPP. Just like Bernie and Hillary said that college will be debt free for all students! Whenever a politician is promising free bread and circuses they're definitely lying. However that's when the SENTIMENT of the staement comes into effect. Bernie would genuinely have done what he could to make college more affordable while Hillary was obviously lying about "affordable college", going after banks, and the TPP. Trump will never build a wall but he will definitely enforce our immigration laws. Trump cannot repeal the ACA but he will definitely fix it. Common sense is to do this with ALL POLITICIANS. I'm not being selective here. I literally do this with all candidates. If you have a problem with Trump winning the election then you should have nominated Bernie Sanders in a heartbeat.
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It's NOT "just like Hillary".
Hillary did Flip Flop on TPP.. about a year ago. Neither she nor Bernie "renegged" on anything.
They didn't flip flop and didn't get elected to be able TO "renege."
What planet is this?

She DIDN'T get elected on the same promises repeated Every day and them Drop them in 48 hours.
TPP/Banks were hardly her main daily Mantra either.
I mean, there's never been anything Like Trump... who Folded on his #1/#2 issues/PILLARS within 48 hrs!
He folded on 1 AND 2 of what got him elected. Some of the rallies were purely those topics alone.
Sociopathy can work in business, because you're not on tape every day.
Too bad about that.
 
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Battalion said:
mbig,

If you spent the time trying to LISTEN to what Trump was saying, instead of flipping through soundbites trying to catch flash card examples of racism / sexism / whatever-isms that the MM constantly barraged us with,...
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Huh? We're talking about a Solid issue here. His 100x-made Healthcare pronouncement mainly. (the "Wall" is falling too)


Battalion said:
When he said "the wall just got 10 feet taller" in response to the Mexican "president" (talk about ****ty leadership), it doesn't mean we literally pile on an additional 10 feet of rebar and concrete. It means making it even more difficult than he was planning for illegal immigrants to leech off us here, which he stated in following speeches by proceeding to add dropping federal funding in his speeches and policy platform for sanctuary cities. Anyone with half a brain would understand that.
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Huh?
He reiterated PHYSICAL WALL no less than 100 Times. Height NOT the issue. This issue is not a single exaggeration, this was unmistakable Core position.
So Your "10 feet higher" Strawman Failed.

Let me add:
I Share Trumptanic's position Immigration 100% !
The man is just too STUPID to figure out E-Verify would be much more effective.
It's like taking a Canoe up the Potomac to get to the White House.


Battalion said:
Just because much of HRC's public and private speeches were PC and lacked the use of bombastic language doesn't mean her policies were any good. What did she have to offer? "Continue where we left off", "more of the same". That was basically it.
And it's not she like didn't slip up either (superpredators anyone?).
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It's unfortunate you prefer "Bombastic" over "sane."
Not mention condoning the 'Groping' admission of Trump.. and his victims in those as-described attacks.
 
Re: Trump in Exclusiv Interview, Tells WSJ He's Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health

Battalion said:
mbig,

If you spent the time trying to LISTEN to what Trump was saying, instead of flipping through soundbites trying to catch flash card examples of racism / sexism / whatever-isms that the MM constantly barraged us with,...
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Huh? We're talking about a Solid issue here. His 100x-made Healthcare pronouncement mainly. (the "Wall" is falling too)


Battalion said:
When he said "the wall just got 10 feet taller" in response to the Mexican "president" (talk about ****ty leadership), it doesn't mean we literally pile on an additional 10 feet of rebar and concrete. It means making it even more difficult than he was planning for illegal immigrants to leech off us here, which he stated in following speeches by proceeding to add dropping federal funding in his speeches and policy platform for sanctuary cities. Anyone with half a brain would understand that.
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He reiterated PHYSICAL WALL no less than 100 Times. Height NOT the issue. The issue was not a single exaggeration, this was his unmistakable Core position.
So Your "10 feet higher" Strawman Failed.

Let me add:
I Share Trumps position Immigration: 100% !
The man is just too STUPID to figure out E-Verify would be much more effective.
A 'Wall' is like taking a Canoe up the Potomac to get to the White House.


Battalion said:
Just because much of HRC's public and private speeches were PC and lacked the use of bombastic language doesn't mean her policies were any good. What did she have to offer? "Continue where we left off", "more of the same". That was basically it.
And it's not she like didn't slip up either (superpredators anyone?).
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It's unfortunate you prefer "Bombastic" over "sane."
Not mention condoning the 'Groping' admission of Trump.. and his victims in those as-described attacks.
 
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Re: Trump in Exclusiv Interview, Tells WSJ He's Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health

Obamacare position. Flipppd/Fudged.
Wall position. Fudged/Flipped.
20/30% Tax Cut will be Fudged, or more likely made impossible by.. ya know.. Math and that pesky Ryan crowd.
Though a corprate cut IS coming. I recommend a 50% cut or more, but with conditions of repatriation from the top 25 corporations.
 
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