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Trump Within Striking Distance of Clinton Despite Groping Allegations

truthatallcost said:
But just gullible enough to believe that 8 women surface spontaneously with claims of sexual abuse against Trump, exactly 1 month before the election?

Gotcha.
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The tapes didn't surface until approx. the same amount of time before the election, yet they existed all along.
 
truthatallcost said:
But just gullible enough to believe that 8 women surface spontaneously with claims of sexual abuse against Trump, exactly 1 month before the election?

Gotcha.
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they were all being kept in Romney's binders full of women.
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
they were all being kept in Romney's binders full of women.
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What exactly was wrong with that Romney comment by the way? I never quite understood what the problem with it was
 
LowDown said:
Most likely your are right. You'd be saying the polls are crap, and you'd be correct.
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Honestly, I think Trump is way behind. I doubt he breaks 40%.
 
truthatallcost said:
But just gullible enough to believe that 8 women surface spontaneously with claims of sexual abuse against Trump, exactly 1 month before the election?

Gotcha.
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I'm frankly a bit suspicious of the timing myself - it's possible they were afraid to come forward until he was basically outed on national TV, but it seems almost...scripted.

But I would say the same thing if said video was never revealed - I hope people aren't gullible enough to elect Trump.
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
Incorrect, and verry weak reply
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Ah, the judge of the forum. Full of yourself, aren't you.

In my humble opinion, vegans are all mentally deficient due to malnutrition and therefore can't help it. I say this as a professional neuroscientist. :2razz:
 
Something is screwy with what's being reported when Hillary can be up 4 in one poll, up 12 in another, and they're both over the same time period.
Somebody's algorithm needs a going over.
 
Simpleχity;1066435830 said:
An 11 point lead for Clinton. And this line was special...

"Still, nearly seven in 10 of those polled said Mr. Trump probably made unwanted sexual advances toward women, and more than half said his apology for remarks on the hot-mic tape was insincere."
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That 11 point poll has some issues.
It was done by Hart Research Associates. The President of that company is Geoff Garin.
Mr. Geoff Garin, the President of Hart Research and Associates”, is currently working as “a strategic adviser for Priorities USA in support of Hillary Clinton’s election“.
In politics, Mr. Garin has a well-earned reputation for helping candidates win in difficult circumstances. He has directed the polling and created winning campaign strategies for many of the Democratic leaders serving in the US Senate, including Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Mark Warner, Dianne Feinstein, Patrick Leahy, and Ben Cardin. In 2008, he helped direct the strategy team for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign during its final two months, and in 2012 he served as the pollster and strategic advisor to Priorities USA, the super PAC supporting President Obama’s reelection. He currently is playing a similar role for Priorities USA in support of Hillary Clinton’s election.
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bubbabgone said:
Something is screwy with what's being reported when Hillary can be up 4 in one poll, up 12 in another, and they're both over the same time period.
Somebody's algorithm needs a going over.
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Must be the composition of the sample voters asked to participate.
 
The Mark said:
I'm frankly a bit suspicious of the timing myself - it's possible they were afraid to come forward until he was basically outed on national TV, but it seems almost...scripted.

But I would say the same thing if said video was never revealed - I hope people aren't gullible enough to elect Trump.
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Here's what Bernie Sanders had to say about Hillary's chief of mudslinging, David Brock:
“Bernie Sanders, as everyone knows, has one of the strongest civil rights records in Congress. He doesn’t need lectures on civil rights and racial issues from David Brock, the head of a Hillary Clinton super PAC. Twenty-five years ago it was Brock – a mud slinging, right-wing extremist – who tried to destroy Anita Hill, a distinguished African-American law professor. He later was forced to apologize for his lies about her. Today, he is lying about Sen. Sanders. It’s bad enough that Hillary Clinton is raising millions in special-interest money in her super PACS. It is worse that she would hire a mudslinger like David Brock. She should be ashamed of her association with Brock.”
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If Trump's accusers were paid to lie, I'd bet money on Brock being behind it.
https://berniesanders.com/press-release/clintons-mudslinger/
 
Beaudreaux said:
That's funny to me, given that Trump is the candidate that has been consistently against military intervention and Hillary is the one that may very well take us to war, again. Not that I'm voting for Trump either, and I assume you're referring to Trump's unstable persona as your motivation, I just find it funny that this would be your reasoning for not voting for him given the facts in evidence about Hillary and her war hawk history and current stances.
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it's an awful ****ing choice. however, his temperament makes him so ridiculously unfit to run the most powerful military mankind has ever known that a puddle of diarrhea would be preferable.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Must be the composition of the sample voters asked to participate.
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Sure but isn't that a significant story?
The algorithms are supposed to compensate for things like sampling.
 
truthatallcost said:
Donald Trump within striking distance of Hillary Clinton despite groping allegations - Washington Times

Hillary Clinton and NBC may have leaked the Access Hollywood tape too soon. Trump is actually still very close to Clinton, according to a Washington Post/ABC poll.

Do you think that Trump can overcome the media's constant attacks against him, and win the election?

Thoughts?
Comments?
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RCP has Clinton ahead by 7 points, which is pretty good. I'd be happier with double digits but a seven point lead is good. 538's most conservative projection has Clinton winning by 59 votes more than needs to win the Presidency.

I don't want to go out on a limb and say she's got this in the bag, but....Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President.
 
truthatallcost said:
Here's what Bernie Sanders had to say about Hillary's chief of mudslinging, David Brock:


If Trump's accusers were paid to lie, I'd bet money on Brock being behind it.
https://berniesanders.com/press-release/clintons-mudslinger/
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Let me be perfectly clear.

I don't care WHAT Clinton did or does, or how she went about it. Neither she nor Trump will get my vote.

It's possible what you are suggesting is reality, but I seriously doubt evidence would be found even if it were.

At this point I hope I live to be around when they start digging up the reality behind the facade on the politicians of the last decade or so. It'll be interesting to see what was real and what wasn't.
 
Helix said:
it's an awful ****ing choice. however, his temperament makes him so ridiculously unfit to run the most powerful military mankind has ever known that a puddle of diarrhea would be preferable.
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No argument with your observation, I just feel that Hillary is more likely to take us to war. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Not all polling firms use the exact same methods and they must conduct polling differently

Hardly breaking news.
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Of course it isn't.
The fact remains if the polls were dependable they'd produce the same results.
They don't, so some methods are better or less influenced than others.
 
The Mark said:
Let me be perfectly clear.

I don't care WHAT Clinton did or does, or how she went about it. Neither she nor Trump will get my vote.

It's possible what you are suggesting is reality, but I seriously doubt evidence would be found even if it were.

At this point I hope I live to be around when they start digging up the reality behind the facade on the politicians of the last decade or so. It'll be interesting to see what was real and what wasn't.
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FYI: Democratic Super PAC to Pay for Dirt on Donald Trump - NBC News
 
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