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Dear donald trump and vladimir putin, i am not sidney blumenthal

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This is very concerning,at least to me.I'm sure some trump hardliner will wade in here and excuse trump though.:2wave:

<Updated | I am Sidney Blumenthal. At least, that is what Vladimir Putin—and, somehow, Donald Trump—seem to believe. And that should raise concerns not only about Moscow’s attempts to manipulate this election, but also how Trump came to push Russian disinformation to American voters.>


<An email from Blumenthal—a confidant of Hillary Clinton and a man, second only to George Soros at the center of conservative conspiracy theories—turned up in the recent document dump by Wikileaks. At a time when American intelligence believes Russian hackers are trying to interfere with the presidential election, records have been fed recently to Wikileaks out of multiple organizations of the Democratic Party, raising concerns that the self-proclaimed whistleblowers group has become a tool of Putin’s government. >



<The Russians were quoting two sentences from a 10,000 word piece I wrote for Newsweek, which Blumenthal had emailed to Podesta. There was no mistaking that Blumenthal was citingNewsweek—the magazine’s name and citations for photographs appeared throughout the attached article. The Russians had carefully selected the “of course” paragraph, which mentions there were legitimate points of criticism regarding Clinton and Benghazi, all of which had been acknowledged in nine reports about the terror attack and by the former Secretary of State herself. But that was hardly the point of the story, “Benghazi Biopsy: A Comprehensive Guide to One of America’s Worst Political Outrages.” The piece is about the obscene politicization of the assault that killed four Americans, and the article slammed the Republican Benghazi committee which was engaged in a political show trial disguised as a Congressional investigation—the tenth inquiry into the tragedy.>



<Here is the real summation of my article, which the Russians failed to quote: “The historical significance of this moment can hardly be overstated, and it seems many Republicans, Democrats and members of the media don’t fully understand the magnitude of what is taking place. The awesome power of government—one that allows officials to pore through almost anything they demand and compel anyone to talk or suffer the shame of taking the Fifth Amendment—has been unleashed for purely political purposes. It is impossible to review what the Benghazi committee has done as anything other than taxpayer-funded political research of the opposing party’s leading candidate for president. Comparisons from America’s past are rare. Richard Nixon’s attempts to use the IRS to investigate his perceived enemies come to mind. So does Senator Joseph McCarthy’s red-baiting during the 1950s, with reckless accusations of treason leveled at members of the State Department, military generals and even the secretary of the Army…The consequences, however, are worse than the manipulation of the electoral process. By using Benghazi for political advantage, the Republicans have communicated to global militants that, through even limited attacks involving relatively few casualties, they can potentially influence the direction of American elections.”>



,<At a rally in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump spoke while holding a document in his hand. He told the assembled crowd that it was an email from Blumenthal, whom he called “sleazy Sidney.”>
<“This just came out a little while ago,’’ Trump said. “I have to tell you this.” And then he read the words from my article. >

<“He’s now admitting they could have done something about Benghazi,’’ Trump said, dropping the document to the floor. “This just came out a little while ago.”>

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-pu...-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635





 
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Could this be legit?

It's been, well, decades since I read Newsweek - but it used to be a pretty legit source.

This stuff is getting legitimately scary.

We seem to be drowning in a sea of misinformation.
 
Could this be legit?

It's been, well, decades since I read Newsweek - but it used to be a pretty legit source.

This stuff is getting legitimately scary.

We seem to be drowning in a sea of misinformation.

It's legit.

That writer, Eichenwald, from Newsweek has been doing some good work- he broke the Trump Cuba story, among others.
 
It's legit.

That writer, Eichenwald, from Newsweek has been doing some good work- he broke the Trump Cuba story, among others.
So how the hell did Trump get it?

This is scary ****, if legit!
 
Could this be legit?

It's been, well, decades since I read Newsweek - but it used to be a pretty legit source.

This stuff is getting legitimately scary.

We seem to be drowning in a sea of misinformation.

Is this legit? Citizens are being scammed and ignoring serious issues. This is war.
 
Is this legit. Citizens have really overlooked the hacking of our political system. This is war.
Well, not only is Mr. Trump the individual favored by all these digital dumps, but if this article is to be believed - Trump seems to have some special connection in getting them, too!

Please tell me this isn't true.
 
Well, not only is Mr. Trump the individual favored by all these digital dumps, but if this article is to be believed - Trump seems to have some special connection in getting them, too!

Please tell me this isn't true.

There is something off. The Kremlin is up to something and Putin has a sly smirk and Trump seems very empowered and not preparing on any level of detail on issues. I hope the MSM picks this up and reports something really worthy. it will not have the appeal of pu$$ygate to the masses yet this is far more serious.
 
There is something off. The Kremlin is up to something and Putin has a sly smirk and Trump seems very empowered and not preparing on any level of detail on issues. I hope the MSM picks this up and reports something really worthy. it will not have the appeal of pu$$ygate to the masses yet this is far more serious.
You know, I'm usually not much of a conspiracy theorist - but this is really freaky.

And Trump not only has the Paul Manafort - Putin connection, but he seems to really embrace Putin & Russia, to the point he changed the heretofore hardline GOP Party Platform to soften on Russia when he took over at the convention:

WaPo: Trump campaign guts GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine
 
So how the hell did Trump get it?

This is scary ****, if legit!

In best case it is extreme recklessness and incompetenc to use Russian propaganda sources instead of waiting for confirmation from other sources.

Also it’s show the arrogance of the Trump campaign that after all the accusation of being too friendly and connected to the Russian government, someone in the campaign still though it was a good idea to do a crazy stunt like this.
 
Well, not only is Mr. Trump the individual favored by all these digital dumps, but if this article is to be believed - Trump seems to have some special connection in getting them, too!

Please tell me this isn't true.

It's not true. The article in question was posted to Twitter 4 hours before Trump read it.
 
In best case it is extreme recklessness and incompetenc to use Russian propaganda sources instead of waiting for confirmation from other sources.

Also it’s show the arrogance of the Trump campaign that after all the accusation of being too friendly and connected to the Russian government, someone in the campaign still though it was a good idea to do a crazy stunt like this.

Oh the irony.


Also, what is the proof exactly that the Blumenthal email was faked? If the argument is that it contains Eichenwald passages then that is thin gruel since the email in question went out an hour after the Newsweek article was posted. The Occam's Razor explanation is simply that Blumenthal lifted passages from the Eichenwald piece.
 
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It's not true. The article in question was posted to Twitter 4 hours before Trump read it.

Great. We have a candidate who treats Twitter reports from 'CNN Axis of Evil' as true and publicly announces them without questioning.

Not sure if that's worse than being a Russian stooge or not.
 
Great. We have a candidate who treats Twitter reports from 'CNN Axis of Evil' as true and publicly announces them without questioning.

Not sure if that's worse than being a Russian stooge or not.

Of course you wouldn't know which is worse. :roll:

Ironically, Eichenwald turning Blumenthal's quote of Eichenwald's Newsweek article into evidence of a Russian/Trump conspiracy is the real nutter moment in this story.

The crux of Trump's assertion, the Blumenthal email, has not been debunked. The best that Eichenwald could sanely claim is that Blumenthal's email plagiarized his Newsweek article an hour after it went online. So, all that has happened is that a bunch of nuts built a Russian conspiracy around flimsy evidence and the left can't use their brain to suss that.
 
Of course you wouldn't know which is worse. :roll:

Ironically, Eichenwald turning Blumenthal's quote of Eichenwald's Newsweek article into evidence of a Russian/Trump conspiracy is the real nutter moment in this story.

The crux of Trump's assertion, the Blumenthal email, has not been debunked. The best that Eichenwald could sanely claim is that Blumenthal's email plagiarized his Newsweek article an hour after it went online. So, all that has happened is that a bunch of nuts built a Russian conspiracy around flimsy evidence and the left can't use their brain to suss that.


At least is show the importance of having a competent leader and staff in a presidential campaign. Else you will have a candidate reporting fake stories during public campaign meeting that are only reported by Russian propaganda channels and anonymous Twitter accounts. Also if you look at your own link you can see in the comments that people had commented on the original tweet that the story was false. So it seems like if Trump staff or himself used that tweet without even look at the tweets comments if they got the information from the tweet.

Also it’s really great for Russia and other forces if the presidential candidate report anything the candidate see on Twitter because it makes it so much easier to influence and spread false stories.
 
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It's not true. The article in question was posted to Twitter 4 hours before Trump read it.

I think that the original Vladimir (Lenin) musta had a fool like trump in mind when he made the statement “useful fools. “Don’t you find it kinda odd that a candidate for the President of our country gets their quotes from twitter?
 
Great. We have a candidate who treats Twitter reports from 'CNN Axis of Evil' as true and publicly announces them without questioning.

Not sure if that's worse than being a Russian stooge or not.

Of course you wouldn't know which is worse. :roll:

You apparently have no problem with either.

And frankly, I dont know which is worse. A Russian stooge is bad, but a guy who just reacts to random Twitter stories and has the exclusive command for launch codes with a nuclear football next to him all the time seems like a bad thing.
 
I think that the original Vladimir (Lenin) musta had a fool like trump in mind when he made the statement “useful fools. “Don’t you find it kinda odd that a candidate for the President of our country gets their quotes from twitter?

You guys keep referencing this supposed Russian propaganda without a shred of evidence to back it up.
 
You apparently have no problem with either.

And frankly, I dont know which is worse. A Russian stooge is bad, but a guy who just reacts to random Twitter stories and has the exclusive command for launch codes with a nuclear football next to him all the time seems like a bad thing.

I tend not to waste time taking a moral stand on things that haven't happened or that have little evidence that they happened.

In this case Eichenwald has built an imaginary conspiracy between Trump and Putin based only on the idea that Blumenthal couldn't possibly have borrowed passages from Eichenwald's Newsweek article... from that he concludes that another article that quotes the Blumenthal email must be Russian propaganda.

I know you fail to see the irony in this, but then that is because you seem to really really want to believe the fantastical imagination of Kurt Eichenwald.
 
You guys keep referencing this supposed Russian propaganda without a shred of evidence to back it up.

Point out where you think that I referenced "Russian propaganda".:2wave:
 
I tend not to waste time taking a moral stand on things that haven't happened or that have little evidence that they happened.

In this case Eichenwald has built an imaginary conspiracy between Trump and Putin based only on the idea that Blumenthal couldn't possibly have borrowed passages from Eichenwald's Newsweek article... from that he concludes that another article that quotes the Blumenthal email must be Russian propaganda.

I know you fail to see the irony in this, but then that is because you seem to really really want to believe the fantastical imagination of Kurt Eichenwald.

Probably because the thought of a Presidential Candidate discussing serious issues at a campaign rally is getting information from random twitter accounts from 'CNN Axis of Evil' is too terrible to contemplate, and would be even more horrific than the fairly clear idea that Trump is pretty much a stooge for Putin.
 
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