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Rudy Giuliani on Trump: 'Men at times talk like that' (1 Viewer)

SMTA said:
Bull**** lies that you cannot prove.

Try again.
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It is not a lie. What do you see that is a lie in the post you quoted?
 
tres borrachos said:
Trumpbots are yelling at me telling me that my vote for Gary Johnson is technically a vote for Hillary Clinton (that's Trumpbot logic). Now they're saying their own votes for him aren't really votes for him.

My head hurts. Badly.
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Why do you care what those morons think?
 
SMTA said:
That's exactly what Coldjoint does - makes **** up.

Can't defend it, then tells you to prove him wrong.

Typical liar and bull****ter.
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I made nothing up. I sourced Clintons quote. You are attacking me to deflect the truth.
 
coldjoint said:
I did not say that. It you have to make up crap, why reply at all. I said she wants open borders and what could possibly happen. I never said she would import them.
But an intelligent poster like you can produce a quote of me saying that. I'll wait.
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There you go doubling down on lies again.
 
coldjoint said:
I made nothing up. I sourced Clintons quote.
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You sourced her quote, but what you did after is made up some fear-mongering BS.

You think we're just gonna let you lie about what she said and get away with it? Nuh-uh, homie.
 
coldjoint said:
I made nothing up. I sourced Clintons quote. You are attacking me to deflect the truth.
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Here's your (false) claim:

coldjoint said:
Then get ready for open borders and the 600 million people with a free pass in and out of our country. That is Hillarys goal. To consolidate the hemisphere and dissolve the US and its Constitution.
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Clinton never said either of the above. Just because Trump lies doesn't mean you have to lie, too. Tossing your underpants at his feet onstage is disturbing enough. Have a shred of decency and stick to the facts.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Speaking of which, can you, as a loyal Trump supporter explain just who der fuhrer will "unite" America?

He has alienated women, by talking like a pervert, he has alienated "Mexican" with a long string of adjectives, including bashing a federal judge with an impeccable record. He has come as close as anyone can without saying it that "Muslims" are the enemy of America and on...

So how, exactly, does this racist, mysogynist, businessman with 3500 lawsuits to his record "unite" a country he's deliberately dividing?
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He did not divide the country. It was divided when he started. You can thank Obama and President Jarrett for that.
 
tres borrachos said:
Here's your (false) claim:



Clinton never said either of the above. Just because Trump lies doesn't mean you have to lie, too. Tossing your underpants at his feet onstage is disturbing enough. Have a shred of decency and stick to the facts.
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I never said she did. Those are my words. Comprehension problem?
 
TheGoverness said:
You sourced her quote, but what you did after is made up some fear-mongering BS.
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Exactly the Coldjoint way - manufacture and lie.

Repeat over and over.
 
coldjoint said:
I never said she did. Those are my words. Comprehension problem?
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"I never said she did. Those are my words."

vs.

"I made nothing up. I sourced Clintons quote."

From defending a sexual predator to straight up lying. Good job, dude. You're doing a bangup job.
 
TheGoverness said:
You sourced her quote, but what you did after is made up some fear-mongering BS.

You think we're just gonna let you lie about what she said and get away with it? Nuh-uh, homie.
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I made nothing up. I only said what could happen. An opinion and a possibility. Do you know the difference between that and making things up? Apparently not.
 
Manc Skipper said:
I've not had such conversations with other men since my teens.
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So? Does that mean you switched sides?

ludin said:
So that means no men say those kind of things lol.

The fake outage is more than comical more so when these hack senators and congressmen are banging their D.C. Hookers.
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Fake outrage is right. I wonder how many men in America can fully identify with what Trump said? I've arrested johns and prossies from all walks of life. And Pedos? People are stunned by the number and caliber of people that partake in child sex. That's for another thread altogether.

apdst said:
The Liberal reaction to this crap reminds me of Baptists in the south...lol
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Yes it does.

apdst said:
That comment proves that Liberals don't live in the real world.
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Sure does.

Manc Skipper said:
That comment proves that illiberals show no concern for their foul character and reputation. Admitting to being Trumplike. Wow. Bet they're proud.
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Proud, successful, happy and very rich? Not so bad at all really. ;)

Manc Skipper said:
That means the claim that all men do so is a lie, spread by the degenerate scum who do.
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Easy on the degenerate scum............................you are talking about the Clintons now. ;)
 
Cardinal said:
"I never said she did. Those are my words."

vs.

"I made nothing up. I sourced Clintons quote."

Good job, dude.
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Bad job dude. I did source her quote. And attacking me will not change what she said. Will it?
 
Fearandloathing said:
Speaking of which, can you, as a loyal Trump supporter explain just who der fuhrer will "unite" America?

He has alienated women, by talking like a pervert, he has alienated "Mexican" with a long string of adjectives, including bashing a federal judge with an impeccable record. He has come as close as anyone can without saying it that "Muslims" are the enemy of America and on...

So how, exactly, does this racist, mysogynist, businessman with 3500 lawsuits to his record "unite" a country he's deliberately dividing?
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Trump, thank goodness, hasn't actually divided America. What's he done is made strange bedfellows out of those of us who share exactly nothing in common politically, but are united in the opinion that Donald Trump is the most colossal asshole to ever run for President - and that's saying a lot.

There are the smart ones (on one side), and the Trumpbots on the other. Hopefully they will remain quiet and irrelevant after Donald goes back to his ***** grabbing, so that we intelligent grown ups can get a decent candidate in 2020 to challenge Mrs. Clinton.
 
Absentglare said:
Romney's insult was much more prejudiced- he chose a group (those who didn't pay FIT) that includes many people who did not choose to be part of that group. Romney was condemning students, the retired, etc as though they were deadbeats that he didn't care about.

Hillary targeted people who all chose to be part of the group she described. Further, she had an explanation as for why she considered them deplorable based on their choices. She was condemning them for being seduced by xenophobia and racism.

Completely different scenarios.
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talk about engaging in twisted double speak. Hillary's lie is thinking most or many of Trump's supporters are racist, etc. Most of them cannot stand her
 
tres borrachos said:
So you admit now that you lied about what Clinton said; you were just interpreting her words and putting your own special Trumpie spin on it.
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No. She did say here dream was for open boarders. Read the quote.
 
Greenbeard said:
No one cares what language he used. The outrage is over the fact that he admitted to sexual assault.

Which his surrogate Giuliani acknowledged this morning.
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The faux outrage is over fabricated nonsense.
He did not admit to any such thing.
That is nothing more than a lie.

What he spoke to was what women allowed, not what they didn't allow. That is the context. What they allow.

Claiming sexual assault is as asinine as it is a lie.


Greenbeard said:
No one's building a case, the guy already admitted to it on tape. He sexually assaults women because he knows he's rich/famous enough to get away it. Those are his own words.
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Wrong again.
1. He only spoke to what women allowed.
2. He did not say he grabbed their ***** either.


Context is everythign.
The context here was and still remains, "they let you". Period Not what they don't let you.



tres borrachos said:
It's holy to think it's wrong to grab a woman's private parts against her will.
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Against her will?
WTF are you talking about?
He only spoke to what women allowed. Not what they didn't allow.


tres borrachos said:
I pity you because you you're actually on a message board trying to justify his boasting about sexual assault on women.
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I pity you as you are actually lying and referring to what women allow as being sexual assault.
Obviously you will imagine anything to justify your bias.
 
Cardinal said:
"I never said she did. Those are my words."

vs.

"I made nothing up. I sourced Clintons quote."

From defending a sexual predator to straight up lying. Good job, dude. You're doing a bangup job.
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What lie? Did Clinton say that? Yes she did.
 
Fearandloathing said:
But in answer to your "How do you know he actually grabbed someone's vagina?" Well, since one in eleven of his words is a lie out of his mouth, we don't. But, he did boast that he had done it, ...
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That is a lie.

He said that is what women allow.
Not that he did it.




Absentglare said:
You seem to be very ignorant on sexual harassment and assault. A woman does not have to say "no", she doesn't have to pat her belly while rubbing her head, or do any other stupid thing that you specify in order to qualify for not providing consent. Silence is not sufficient for consent.

If someone sneaks up behind an unsuspecting woman on the street and "grabs her by the *****," i hope that ****er goes to prison.
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He didn't speak to your imagined scenario.
He spoke of what women allowed. Not what they didn't allow. That is the context. And there is absolutely nothing that refutes that context.
Asserting otherwise is as irrational as it is asinine.




JasperL said:
When you grab a woman's ***** or her breasts or her rear without consent, unless she THEN consents, you've committed sexual assault. Her saying NO!!! after the fact doesn't make the act legal. If you do that on a subway and there are witnesses, you can be arrested and charged.
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The context of what was being spoken about was that which women allow. Not what they don't allow.
You do not get to change that because you want to.
And there is absolutely nothing that refutes that context.
 
coldjoint said:
No. She did say here dream was for open boarders. Read the quote.
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I read the quote. She never said any of those things you claimed she said. You just admitted it was your interpretation of what "may" happen. Now you're floundering because you got your ass handed to you. My suggestion is you cut your losses and slink away, because you made an absolute fool of yourself throughout this thread.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Yes he can - you do realize, of course, that honesty and integrity is not real high on the list of priorities of Trump supporters....
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It is not very high on Hillarys list either. Another pot meet kettle moment.
 
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