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Pepe the Frog Declared Hate Symbol by ADL After Alt-Right Memes

They are not pointing what "could be", they are pointing out what significantly IS being used for racist symbolism, you still cannot express why doing so is wrong.

Again...They are not pointing what "could be", they are pointing out what significantly IS being used for racist symbolism, you still cannot express why doing so is wrong.

I did.
Using a "racist" meme to troll, does not actually indicate the user is racist.
Crazy backwards I know, it's a lot like trying to explain to grandma that not everyone who has a pager, is a drug dealer.
Culturally, people like yourself are out of the loop.


Some people find racist "humor" funny, that is a reflection on the recipient.

Not all trolling is "racist." :roll:


i agree, trolls who create anti-Semitic memes do not have high regard for their faith, ie, it is really stupid to note a religion of a troll when is has no bearing on their regard for the faith.

Obviously the point is that a significant number of trolls who create these racist memes are racists themselves......and there are many here who feel the need to suppress such an argument....with all sorts of distractions and rhetorical devices.

Everyone has their reasons for doing so.

You're ignoring that secular Jews, cutlural Jews, whatever you want to call them, have no religious faith.
You have no idea who is racist and who isn't when it comes to this.

That's the problem.
You can't assume anymore, safely, that someone is making and spreading it solely for "racist" intent.
Again, you're culturally out of the loop, pagers aren't just for drug dealers.
 
Then they determined that the frog meme is in itself not a symbol of hate. They admit "the vast majority" of memes posted are not in any way shape or form used as a hate symbol.

Their final determination is the context in which the meme is used determines if it is a symbol of hate. Well DUH !!!!!

I can take a heart, a common symbol of love, and use it in racist bigoted antisemitic way. By the peep logic the ADL should classify a heart as a possible symbol of hate. Heck any thing could be a symbol of hate if the context it right.

Then we should not classify the swastika as an image of hate because it originally meant good luck.
 
Then we should not classify the swastika as an image of hate because it originally meant good luck.

No, we should not do it because having "images of hate" is a stupid counter productive idea, and bad ideas should not be used.
 
No, we should not do it because having "images of hate" is a stupid counter productive idea, and bad ideas should not be used.

I have no problem with Pepe the Frog being classified as a hate image by the ADL because I have seen some of the depictions of Jews by the alt-right which used Pepe.

Never again!!
 
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I did.
Using a "racist" meme to troll, does not actually indicate the user is racist.
I never said it was absolute, just as it would be stupid to argue none are, stop with the the BS.
Crazy backwards I know, it's a lot like trying to explain to grandma that not everyone who has a pager, is a drug dealer.
Culturally, people like yourself are out of the loop.
Speak for yerself, cut the crap and stay on point.



Not all trolling is "racist." :roll:
Who in the hell said it was? Are you incapable of making any argument that is not a non-sequitur?




You're ignoring that secular Jews, cutlural Jews, whatever you want to call them, have no religious faith.
And yet again, a meaningless, pointless absolute argument.
You have no idea who is racist and who isn't when it comes to this
More absolute BS rhetorical garbage.

That's the problem.
You can't assume anymore, safely, that someone is making and spreading it solely for "racist" intent.
More absolutism, more strawman rhetorical BS.
Again, you're culturally out of the loop, pagers aren't just for drug dealers.
Your argument has become a totality of strawman rhetorical BS, I never made absolute argument, you are...ironically.....not to mention going for ageism.

I'm 55, I frequent 4chan, I'm not "out of the loop", and false flag is not a new concept. you need to bone up on debate technique that does not crater in on itself.
 
You and they both fail to understand the purpose of trolling.
In the past, you could quickly assume, that someone who makes such images is indeed a "hater" of some sort.

These days, with trolling, you can't really assume anymore.
People create those images, sometimes, to troll.
Rustling jimmies is about being as offensive as possible.

The ADL, MSM, etc, recognizing this image, at all, is the supreme troll moment.

Being a bigoted asshole "for the lulz" is still being a bigoted asshole.
 
You know, I've seen some people use the American Flag when promoting Donald Trump. I wonder when that symbol will be classified as hateful?

Did you read their actual article?

In summary, it's "Pepe the frog is not itself a hateful meme, but it has been appropriated in hateful ways. Here are some examples."

Something you disagree with?
 
Being a bigoted asshole "for the lulz" is still being a bigoted asshole.

Again, you guys fail to see the nuance.
It sometimes isn't being done because of bigotry, but because they want to be assholes.

Why do you think people use these images to troll?
It causes a reaction.
 
So many Pepe the Frog memes are not bigoted in nature, it is important to examine use of the meme only in context. The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes.



Now, if you're nodding your head with the above statement and thinking these ADL guys are nuts for declaring Pepe to be hateful, you should understand that the above comes from the ADL's article. People need to learn to read more than the headline.
 
Again, you guys fail to see the nuance.
It sometimes isn't being done because of bigotry, but because they want to be assholes.
You fail to see that no one was making an absolute argument..

Why do you think people use these images to troll?
It causes a reaction.
Which is not an argument that nullifies that it is racist.....and that probably those who are creating them....are racists themselves.
 
So many Pepe the Frog memes are not bigoted in nature, it is important to examine use of the meme only in context. The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes.



Now, if you're nodding your head with the above statement and thinking these ADL guys are nuts for declaring Pepe to be hateful, you should understand that the above comes from the ADL's article. People need to learn to read more than the headline.

Yeah i don't get the argument, if pepe is used by some group to troll, somehow he fails to be a symbol of that ?? It just doesn't make sense.
 
I have no problem with Pepe the Frog being classified as a hate image by the ADL because I have seen some of the depiction of Jews by the alt-right which used Pepe.

Never again!!

When people tell me I cant use words or symbols I immediately go use them, I make my stand for freedom and common sense and decency.

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The ADL says:
The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted.

That right there is proof by their own word Pepe is not a general symbol of hate even though they want to classify it as one.

I have no troubles with the ADL wanting to bring attention that a fringe group is occasionally mis appropriating the meme for hateful uses. I take issue with then classifying it as a general symbol of hate because even they admit the majority of the time it is not.
 
So many Pepe the Frog memes are not bigoted in nature, it is important to examine use of the meme only in context. The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes.



Now, if you're nodding your head with the above statement and thinking these ADL guys are nuts for declaring Pepe to be hateful, you should understand that the above comes from the ADL's article. People need to learn to read more than the headline.
Yer expecting way too much from ADD sufferers.
 
I never said it was absolute, just as it would be stupid to argue none are, stop with the the BS.
Speak for yerself, cut the crap and stay on point.

Who in the hell said it was? Are you incapable of making any argument that is not a non-sequitur?
I under


And yet again, a meaningless, pointless absolute argument.
More absolute BS rhetorical garbage.

More absolutism, more strawman rhetorical BS.
Your argument has become a totality of strawman rhetorical BS, I never made absolute argument, you are...ironically.....not to mention going for ageism.

I'm 55, I frequent 4chan, I'm not "out of the loop", and false flag is not a new concept. you need to bone up on debate technique that does not crater in on itself.

So I recognize that they say that not all or most are images of "racism."
Then why make a deal out of this one?

That is my issue.
It comes off as petty politics more than anything else.
It's usage is the exact opposite of the swastika in the west, where the vast majority are used for racist intent, rather than religious.

Pepe memes, the vast majority of, are not used for racist intent.
 
You fail to see that no one was making an absolute argument..

Which is not an argument that nullifies that it is racist.....and that probably those who are creating them....are racists themselves.

For someone to be a racist, they have to believe their race is superior to another.
Just ****posting and trolling with "racist" images is not an indictment of believing in actual racism.
 
For someone to be a racist, they have to believe their race is superior to another.
Just ****posting and trolling with "racist" images is not an indictment of believing in actual racism.

Does not matter, according to these jokers communications between people must be kept pure in order to foster pure minds.

Utopia building requires control of minds dont ya know.

I will have none of that.
 
The ADL says:


That right there is proof by their own word Pepe is not a general symbol of hate even though they want to classify it as one.

I have no troubles with the ADL wanting to bring attention that a fringe group is occasionally mis appropriating the meme for hateful uses. I take issue with then classifying it as a general symbol of hate because even they admit the majority of the time it is not.

Except they are explicitly not classifying it as a general symbol of hate. The thing you have no troubles with? That's what they're doing. That's it. That's all of it.

When people tell me I cant use words or symbols I immediately go use them, I make my stand for freedom and common sense and decency.

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Nobody told you that, though.
 
Does not matter, according to these jokers communications between people must be kept pure in order to foster pure minds.

Utopia building requires control of minds dont ya know.

I will have none of that.

What on earth are you talking about? You need to actually read their article. They aren't doing this bizarre thing you've imagined.
 
So I recognize that they say that not all or most are images of "racism."
Then why make a deal out of this one?
ONE? What ONE racist twisting of Pepe do you think they ONLY cited?

You prove once again you did not visit the ADL site.

That is my issue.
It comes off as petty politics more than anything else.
It's usage is the exact opposite of the swastika in the west, where the vast majority are used for racist intent, rather than religious.
So now yer argument is that the ADL has announced that the use of Pepe in racist symbolism has become as common/profound as the use of the swastika in racist symbolism?

The quantity of BS arguments is unending!

Pepe memes, the vast majority of, are not used for racist intent.
Hurr durr....exactly what the ADL stated.
 
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Does not matter, according to these jokers communications between people must be kept pure in order to foster pure minds.

Utopia building requires control of minds dont ya know.

I will have none of that.

The reaction to this meme is purely hilarious to those who make them.
It's to get these "omg fainting couch" people triggered.

There are other pepe memes, like pepe poop (NSFW).
Is that an indictment of Pepe being a scat porn meme. :lol:

Puritans. :roll:
 
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