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Wall Street Rallies After Clinton Tops First Debate

Does this mean that the Don also gets credit for the improved stock market because online polls showed h in the winner?
 
Hillary lost.
 
Chillfolks said:
Does this mean that the Don also gets credit for the improved stock market because online polls showed h in the winner?
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Online polls?
 
There is something to that. If there is anything the investment community hates is change and uncertainty. In the existing system today they are wagging the dog. For example, the federal reserve should have raised interest rates by 1/4%. It's priced into the market, but Yellen won't because it will hurt Clinton and hurt Wall Street.

Stocks up, good for Clinton. Stocks down, bad for Clinton. Cheap money, good for the elites and Hillary's benefactors.

It is in the status quo's best interest to deal with the devil they know (and contribute to) than the devil they don't.

A robust economy creates competition and upward pressure on wages, and businesses hate that.

BTW, do you think for one minute businesses want imports more expensive so citizens have a job? It's not even on the radar. You'd be laughed out of the board room!
 
Deuce said:
Online polls?
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Yes they are similar to telephone polls except they happen on the internet. Does that answer your question.
 
They rally when their champion gives the impression she has won.

Shows who is really behind her and who she really works for and with.
 
Chillfolks said:
Yes they are similar to telephone polls except they happen on the internet. Does that answer your question.
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I voted 20 times in an online poll once. That's the main reason Zogby polls are not included in polling averages. They can easily be freeped, and it doesn't take much organizational effort to skew one.
 
Chillfolks said:
Does this mean that the Don also gets credit for the improved stock market because online polls showed h in the winner?
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Sorry. The polls don't show that. Or focus groups of undecideds, even when the undecideds were leaning Trump. But you know that. And Trump knows that, or he wouldn't be trying to blame his mic, Holt, or the media for his performance. You can also tell by their expressions and their behavior immediately afterward.

That doesn't mean she won more votes. Time will tell. She could gain, and then quickly lose those gains. Romney won the first debate against Obama.

Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls
If she doesn’t, Trump could be tough to beat.
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Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls | FiveThirtyEight

Maybe next time Trump should prepare.
 
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chuckiechan said:
There is something to that. If there is anything the investment community hates is change and uncertainty. In the existing system today they are wagging the dog. For example, the federal reserve should have raised interest rates by 1/4%. It's priced into the market, but Yellen won't because it will hurt Clinton and hurt Wall Street.

Stocks up, good for Clinton. Stocks down, bad for Clinton. Cheap money, good for the elites and Hillary's benefactors.

It is in the status quo's best interest to deal with the devil they know (and contribute to) than the devil they don't.

A robust economy creates competition and upward pressure on wages, and businesses hate that.

BTW, do you think for one minute businesses want imports more expensive so citizens have a job? It's not even on the radar. You'd be laughed out of the board room!
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Oooooooo....one of Trump's many conspiracy theories rears its head. That's just silly.

I agree that the rates should have been raised earlier this year. It's actually hurting certain sectors to keep the rates so low (the financial sector, for one). When the rate is raised, the market will have a short term negative reaction, then will return to former levels....certain sectors will have a boost, and certain sectors will remain lower. To a large extent, the 1/4% raise is already factored in. But Yellen is not conspiring with politicians. Unless you have one scintilla of evidence to show that? You know...a fact?

The next time someone tells you about an alleged conspiracy, ask to see the evidence of it.
 
Perotista said:
Why wouldn't Wall Street rally? Wall Street has Hillary Clinton in their back pocket.
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Maybe so. But that's why they invested more: they perceived that Clinton had inched closer to the presidency. And that's good for the economy.

Don't forget the PEOPLE buy stocks, though. Not just financial institutions.
 
Roadvirus said:
Headline should read: Wall Street Celebrates After Their Political Ally Tops First Debate
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I buy stocks. I'm not Wall Street. You don't have your retirement account invested in funds or stocks?

It's perceived, I think, that Trump would be bad for the economy and business in general, because he's an unknown, inexperienced, his temperament, or whatever. They perceived Romney would be good for stocks, so it's not that Trump is rich.

(Don't forget that stocks are shares of businesses. Target, WalMart, Coca Cola, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Halliburton, etc.)
 
chuckiechan said:
There is something to that. If there is anything the investment community hates is change and uncertainty. In the existing system today they are wagging the dog. For example, the federal reserve should have raised interest rates by 1/4%. It's priced into the market, but Yellen won't because it will hurt Clinton and hurt Wall Street.

Stocks up, good for Clinton. Stocks down, bad for Clinton. Cheap money, good for the elites and Hillary's benefactors.

It is in the status quo's best interest to deal with the devil they know (and contribute to) than the devil they don't.

A robust economy creates competition and upward pressure on wages, and businesses hate that.

BTW, do you think for one minute businesses want imports more expensive so citizens have a job? It's not even on the radar. You'd be laughed out of the board room!
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And that is why the bubble will continue for a while longer.
 
Captain Adverse said:
They rally when their champion gives the impression she has won.

Shows who is really behind her and who she really works for and with.
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Yeah, pretty funny since right during the debate she accused Trump of not revealing his taxes because he was whored out to wall street
 
JumpinJack said:
Sorry. The polls don't show that. Or focus groups of undecideds, even when the undecideds were leaning Trump. But you know that. And Trump knows that, or he wouldn't be trying to blame his mic, Holt, or the media for his performance. You can also tell by their expressions and their behavior immediately afterward.

That doesn't mean she won more votes. Time will tell. She could gain, and then quickly lose those gains. Romney won the first debate against Obama.


Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls | FiveThirtyEight

Maybe next time Trump should prepare.
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We must be looking at different polls. Time, CNBC and others have, or did at 2pm est when I checked them out, Trump as the winner.
Talking head pundits are calling it for Hiary.


I didn't hear anything from either to make me think they won. Didn't hear anything but the same worn out empty promises and false attacks from each candidate.

But everyone has their own opinion.
 
Captain Adverse said:
They rally when their champion gives the impression she has won.

Shows who is really behind her and who she really works for and with.
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They're dumping stock before she comes in and ****s things up.
 
apdst said:
They're dumping stock before she comes in and ****s things up.
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Greetings, apdst. :2wave:

On Thursday, 9-22 the Dow closed at 18,392.46. On Friday 9-23 it lost 131.01 and closed at 18,261.45. On Monday 9-26, it lost 166.62, closing at 18,094.83. I just figured the market was down because of the upcoming debate, and since Wall Street has contributed heavily to her campaign, I figured they weren't sure what Trump might do to "upset their apple cart." IIRC, they were also concerned at one time that Hillary might choose Elizabeth Warren as her VP, since the dislike each felt for the other was the same on both sides! :mrgreen:
 
Captain Adverse said:
They rally when their champion gives the impression she has won.

Shows who is really behind her and who she really works for and with.
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The people Trump describes as the movers of America and the most deserving of tax breaks? You know, Wall Street types.
 
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