Police release videos of shooting of Keith Scott

Police release video of Keith Lamont Scott's fatal shooting | The Charlotte Observer

Police on Saturday gave this account of the fatal encounter:Two officers in plain clothes were in an unmarked car waiting to serve a warrant when Scott’s white SUV pulled in beside of them.
They saw Scott roll what they believed to be a marijuana “blunt.” They returned to watching for their suspect when they saw Scott hold up a gun.
They withdrew to a spot nearby and put on duty vests that said “Police” and equipment that would identify them as officers.
When they came back, Scott still had the gun. They identified themselves as police officers, the department said, and told him loudly and repeatedly to drop the weapon. Scott did not comply.
Then a uniformed officer in a marked SUV drove up to assist and the officer started pounding on the front passenger window.
Scott then got out with the gun and backed away, police said, but did not drop the weapon.
“Officer Vinson perceived Mr. Scott’s actions and movements as an imminent physical threat to himself and the other officers,” police said in a statement. “Officer Vinson fired his issued service weapon, striking Mr. Scott. Officers immediately rendered first aid and requested Medic to respond to the scene.”

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Link has video. Looks like a clean shoot, guy was high, armed and not behaving in a safe manner.

Renae said:

Police release video of Keith Lamont Scott's fatal shooting | The Charlotte Observer



Link has video. Looks like a clean shoot, guy was high, armed and not behaving in a safe manner.

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Shocker :roll:

Why in the heck can't people lean towards the most likely cause of an event until they have solid evidence suggesting otherwise?

Mathematician said:

Shocker :roll:

Why in the heck can't people lean towards the most likely cause of an event until they have solid evidence suggesting otherwise?

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Because it is easier to believe the first lie you hear that creates outrage... and then as more evidence comes out that suggests the opposite of what you believe, you make up excuses that "planting" or other nefarious activity occurred by police.

Why if it is a clean shoot you don't release the video when your city is in a riot?

How pathetically weak are cities when controlled by liberalism.

I don't see any erratic/sudden movements or hand gestures that would suggest the threat level had changed for the officers.

Caine said:

Because it is easier to believe the first lie you hear that creates outrage... and then as more evidence comes out that suggests the opposite of what you believe, you make up excuses that "planting" or other nefarious activity occurred by police.

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MOST people find it reasonable to assume that if you are waiving a gun around and refuse to obey law enforcement commands to drop it, you stand a good chance of getting shot down. But there are some that don't - can you guess who?

Higgins86 said:

I don't see any erratic/sudden movements or hand gestures that would suggest the threat level had changed for the officers.

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But it was a book.

Bwahahahahahahahahah

MorrisDay said:

MOST people find it reasonable to assume that if you are waiving a gun around and refuse to obey law enforcement commands to drop it, you stand a good chance of getting shot down. But there are some that don't - can you guess who?

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Are we watching different videos? I don't see a gun.

MorrisDay said:

MOST people find it reasonable to assume that if you are waiving a gun around and refuse to obey law enforcement commands to drop it, you stand a good chance of getting shot down. But there are some that don't - can you guess who?

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The same ones who expect cops to bring a taser to a gun fight.

Higgins86 said:

Are we watching different videos? I don't see a gun.

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It's a book.

That's your story and your sticking with it.

Well there is a large % of the population that still thinks the hands were up and the words coming out the mouth was don't shoot.

Yep. This is the state of America today.

But if you say the hands weren't up and it wasn't a book you are a racist.

Ok.

Ih2puo said:

Why if it is a clean shoot you don't release the video when your city is in a riot?

How pathetically weak are cities when controlled by liberalism.

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You don't release the video until you have a chance to talk to all the witnesses. You don't want to potentially contaminate their witness report by having them see the video and change the story they were going to tell.

You don't release the video until you have a chance to fully complete an investigation.

Ih2puo said:

It's a book.

That's your story and your sticking with it.

Well there is a large % of the population that still thinks the hands were up and the words coming out the mouth was don't shoot.

Yep. This is the state of America today.

But if you say the hands weren't up and it wasn't a book you are a racist.

Ok.

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No....

The poster I quoted said " he was waiving a gun around" but this was not the case. Not only can we not see a gun the victims hands are down.

Higgins86 said:

Are we watching different videos? I don't see a gun.

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I have not seen all the evidence but IF he had a gun and refused to drop it, a police officer (or anyone really) would be justified in pulling the trigger. If he actually did NOT have a gun, but had a "book" as the girl in the cell phone video was screaming, then I'll admit it's a completely different story.

MorrisDay said:

I have not seen all the evidence but IF he had a gun and refused to drop it, a police officer (or anyone really) would be justified in pulling the trigger. If he actually did NOT have a gun, but had a "book" as the girl in the cell phone video was screaming, then I'll admit it's a completely different story.

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I don't disagree but my point is that this video really doesn't clear anything up for either side.

Higgins86 said:

I don't see any erratic/sudden movements or hand gestures that would suggest the threat level had changed for the officers.

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Gun in hand...what more do you need? How someone can think that confronting cops with a gun is a good idea and that they will be allowed to just walk away simply baffles me to no end.

calamity said:

Gun in hand...what more do you need? How someone can think that confronting cops with a gun is a good idea and that they will be allowed to just walk away simply baffles me to no end.

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Again though you don't know he has a gun, it's not clear in the video.

Ih2puo said:

It's a book.

That's your story and your sticking with it.

Well there is a large % of the population that still thinks the hands were up and the words coming out the mouth was don't shoot.

Yep. This is the state of America today.

But if you say the hands weren't up and it wasn't a book you are a racist.

Ok.

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He was no doubt reading Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment.

Higgins86 said:

I don't disagree but my point is that this video really doesn't clear anything up for either side.

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Ok, but my point is that the individual police officer (in this case a black man) is immediately found guilty of wrong doing by the BLM crowd mentality - and I put BHO in that same category. Who stands up for the rights of these police officers who are 99% of the time just doing the job they are trained to do?

Well, the video doesn't show much more than he had no gun in his right hand, and his left hand cannot be ascertained!

IOW, not much help.

MorrisDay said:

Ok, but my point is that the individual police officer (in this case a black man) is immediately found guilty of wrong doing by the BLM crowd mentality - and I put BHO in that same category. Who stands up for the rights of these police officers who are 99% of the time just doing the job they are trained to do?

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Given the fact most of them never face criminal charges I think it's safe to say their rights are well protected.

Higgins86 said:

Again though you don't know he has a gun, it's not clear in the video.

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It sure looks clear to me. I see a gun in his right hand, a gun he refuses to drop as he walks backward.

calamity said:

It sure looks clear to me. I see a gun in his right hand, a gun he refuses to drop as he walks backward.

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Your're the only one then, no journalist, experts etc have been able to confirm that.

Higgins86 said:

Given the fact most of them never face criminal charges I think it's safe to say their rights are well protected.

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I guess that depends on what you consider "well protected". The cop in Ferguson Mo. performed his job exactly how he was trained to do and how the situation dictated he should, yet the BLM crowd mentality (including BHO's justice department) did everything they could to ruin his career and in some respects, his life. Do you call that justice?

It would really be great if Obama would hold a press conference and talk solely about inner city black crime and the serious issue of complying with the police. There just aren't enough decent black role models who say what really needs to be said, instead they portray inner city blacks as victims no matter what. It's condescending and not helpful. One example was an appearance of a rapper named TI on the Daily Show. The host asked him about what some perceive to be the negative influence rap has on inner cities, and TI's response was that if "they" made the inner cities better, there wouldn't be these negative things to rap about. And he got a lot of applause. "They" need to make the inner cities better, not TI. And who is "they" btw. On another occasion I heard a black guy on the radio talk about how inner city black men are "aggressive" and the police need to be sensitive to that. What??? Maybe it's best to not be so aggressive. I don't know if people realize when they say things like that what rock bottom expectations they have for inner city blacks.

A lot (not all or maybe even most) inner city men "keep it real" by engaging in criminal activity and saying "f#ck the police" and shun advanced learning and parental responsibilities. Any wonder why a cop might be a little tense engaging a man with this philosophy who's resisting arrest? We have to demand that our leaders address these things. We have to raise our expectations of these inner city blacks for everyone's (including their) own good.

How can people not be troubled by this?

A man is sitting in his car rolling a joint and plainclothes officers spot him. They're going to let it go, but one of them sees a gun. (Remember, this is an open carry state). So the team of officers go put on raid vests and surround the vehicle with guns drawn, shouting orders. He seems non-compliant, so officers begin banging on the passenger-side window. The man gets out, gun in hand, and begins walking backward away from the car. He doesn't drop the gun. An officer shoots him.

I'm sorry, but that is terrible police work. The police escalated. The police created an urgent situation.

You guys don't see any other way this could have been handled? This man — who had threatened no one, who was not committing any violent crimes — had to die?

We have to change how we train police in this country. This is not justice.

Anyone who says police did the right thing here simply does not believe in the 2nd amendment.