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Johnson, Stein fail to qualify for first debate

I maintain my conviction that the Libertarians would have done better if the ticket was reversed. I just don't think enough people take Johnson seriously.

As for Stein? That never was, and never will, be a thing.
 
jonny5 said:
I said respect. What is respecting others freedom, but responsibility to do so?
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This has nothing to do with freedom, it has to do with having a duty toward other people and toward society.
 
Sherman123 said:
I maintain my conviction that the Libertarians would have done better if the ticket was reversed. I just don't think enough people take Johnson seriously.

As for Stein? That never was, and never will, be a thing.
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Neither will anything the LP does, no matter who they put on the ticket. It's a lost cause.
 
Cephus said:
This has nothing to do with freedom, it has to do with having a duty toward other people and toward society.
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You have a duty to respect others' freedom, and they have a duty to respect yours.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Exactly what I just said.
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But that duty is more than just freedom. Nobody will ever have complete freedom. To survive in a cohesive and successful society, people have to be willing to trade some freedom for responsibility to other people. Libertarians, by and large, are not willing to do that. That's why they fail.
 
Cephus said:
But that duty is more than just freedom. Nobody will ever have complete freedom. To survive in a cohesive and successful society, people have to be willing to trade some freedom for responsibility to other people. Libertarians, by and large, are not willing to do that. That's why they fail.
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Of course no one can have complete freedom. One person's freedom would impinge on that of another if that person tried to exercise complete freedom.
 
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