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N.H. paper bucks 100-year tradition, backs Gary Johnson over Donald Trump

apdst said:
What effecylt on policy could Mr. Trump have in 2012?

I don't care what he thought as a citizen. I only care what he thinks as president.

That's just like the libbos going on about Nr. Trump supporting the Iraq war. That's impossible!
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You don't care what he thought. Of course not.

I do enjoy your blind support of Trump. I never pegged you for a Democrat.
 
apdst said:
Yes.

Donald Trump on Gun Control
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I am a lifelong hunter and gun owner. In 1993, as Governor of Massachusetts, I went along with modest restrictions on firearms. Governing involves tough choices. Today, I would make different choices. Restricting gun rights doesn't make us safer, and threatens our constitutional freedoms. I support the Supreme Court's decision in the District of Columbia vs. Heller -- a decision that embraced the notion that Second Amendment rights are individual rights, not to be abridged by the government.
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Bill Weld on Gun Control
 
any lengths to prevent real change, Johnson is in the pocket of the Clinton establishment.
 
Ikari said:
He's deflecting. The pro-Clinton Trump has a lot of things up his sleeves people likely aren't going to want, but because he has the R next to his names, the partisans have to hold water. So they try to grab onto anything they can, use distortion and lies as a backbone of their arguments, and try not to think too much about how much the pro-Clinton Trump is going to disappoint.
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Of course he's deflecting. But he maintains such blind support of Trump, are you surprised? It's pretty sad to see people blindly supporting a Democratic fraud.

As recently as 4 years ago Trump shared Barack Obama's desire to ban guns.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Johnson just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Hopefully this will all reach a climax in November.
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sounds like it will be a fake orgasm and nothing really will come of it
 
apdst said:
But, as a member of the government, he supported gun bans. How many anti-gun policies did Mr. Trump support when he was holding elected office?
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Hillary Clinton doesn't hold any office today. So everything she says isn't relevant, is that right?

Mr. Trump was a gun grabber not so long ago, and you placing your head firmly up his ass and attempting to ignore it doesn't change that.
 
tres borrachos said:
Hillary Clinton doesn't hold any office today. So everything she says isn't relevant, is that right?

Mr. Trump was a gun grabber not so long ago, and you placing your head firmly up his ass and attempting to ignore it doesn't change that.
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She has been working in government for entire adult life.

Name one piece of anti-gun legislation Mr. Trump signed off on. Just one!
 
apdst said:
But, as a member of the government, he supported gun bans. How many anti-gun policies did Mr. Trump support when he was holding elected office?
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Trump has no elected office experience.

So is that all you got now? A source from 26 years ago, and quotes from this year stating he supports the 2nd amendment, but you still have to deflect away from that and try to recall 26 years ago even though you already scoffed at 16 years ago for Trump? Huh? Your hypocrisy is showing.
 
apdst said:
She has been working in government for entire adult life.

Name one piece of anti-gun legislation Mr. Trump signed off on. Just one!
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Pointing out that he's completely inexperienced in politics isn't a positive point.
 
Patrickt said:
"For the first time in a century, the New Hampshire Union Leader chose not to endorse the Republican nominee for president—and is instead backing Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson. “Americans are being told that we have to choose the lesser of two evils,” Union Leader publisher Joe McQuaid wrote in an editorial published Wednesday night. “No, we don’t.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-hampshire-paper-bucks-100-year-tradition-backs-gary-johnson-over-donald-trump/

That's exactly what we're being told. The huckster versus the harridan are each saying they're better than the other guy. Some suckers are backing Trump because, they say, they want to stick their finger in the eye of the Washington elites.

Sorry, but Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both Washington elites, both liberal Democrats, both New Yorkers by birth or by choice.

If you want to tell the Washington elites, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more," don't settle for the two elites they've presented you as choices. Vote for anyone but Sen. Clinton or Mr. Trump. When you're told, "You have to pick one of the two," just say, "No we don't."
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Boom. Well Put.
 
apdst said:
She has been working in government for entire adult life.

Name one piece of anti-gun legislation Mr. Trump signed off on. Just one!
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Why are you saying these really stupid things? They aren't deflecting away from Trump's desire to ban guns, you know.
 
apdst said:
William Weld is pro-gun ban. Why would Johnson pick a gun grabber as his running mate?
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I don't know. Why do you support a "gun grabber" for president. I'm going to guess its for similar reasons; agreed with them on to other issues and don't feel their previous stance is that important.
 
Ikari said:
Pointing out that he's completely inexperienced in politics isn't a positive point.
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Hey, she may be an incompetent crook, but at least Trump has no idea what he's doing!!!
 
Zyphlin said:
I don't know. Why do you support a "gun grabber" for president. I'm going to guess its for similar reasons; agreed with them on to other issues and don't feel their previous stance is that important.
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I'm not supporting a gun grabber.
 
Zyphlin said:
In the past, yes. He has suggested support for assault weapons bans.
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When he was holding office? What governmental position was he in, at the time?
 
apdst said:
Has Mr. Trump suggested a gun ban?
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Here was apdst's comment

Everyone should keep it in mind when he dishonestly and laughably continues his attempt to move the goal posts and make ****ty excuses.

His question wasn't when has trump signed a gun ban. It wasn't when has trump been in office and supported a gun ban. It wasn't when was trump involved in politics and backed a gun ban.

It was simply HAS Trump suggested a gun ban, nothing more. And unequivocally, the answer is factual "yes, yes he has".

Any wriggling or obfuscation that apdst keeps using is nothing but moving the goal posts and should be ignored. His question was asked, answered, and then ignored by him because it doesn't fit his narrative.

If another person was supporting a "gun banner" in his terms, he'd be calling them a lib. But I'm sure that's "different" for him and Trump.
 
apdst said:
When he was holding office? What governmental position was he in, at the time?
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Goal post move. Your original question was answered. Accept it and accept your support for a gun grabber.
 
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