All I see here is a bit of pissing and moaning about what is "right" and "justified."
1) Your initial argument was that people were "too afraid" to admit they did not think rape is a capital crime. Thanks for not bothering to acknowledge that you were wrong.
2) The reason why I am discussing what is justified is because that is a critical part of determining whether or not something should deserve the maximum possible sentence.
3) Your response is basically to stamp your foot, and make a bunch of emotional appeals. That's not impressive.
What is right and justified is not perform an act so vile that it can corrupt the very moral fiber of the victim. Turning them into something they are not.
Thanks for the nonsense.
Yes, rape can have major psychological effects, as I acknowledged in my post. But it does not "corrupt the moral fiber of the victim."
Rape is a God awful evil crime. And it isn't an accident. Is willful. It is animalistic. It is VILE. It isn't some "accidental" crime. It is a crime that is truly violent.
I never EVER said that this incident, or rape in general, is an accident. Nor is that any part of my claim.
I am simply pointing out that it is not the worst possible crime, and does not deserve the maximum possible penalty.
And the fact that you want to piss and moan about the death penalty in general says a lot about you.
The fact that you did not read my post says far more about you, and your position.
I specifically OMITTED any discussion about whether the death penalty is valid. Read closer next time.
There are some truly awful people in this world. People who rape children, sell them on the black market, kidnap young girls and drug them, rape them, sell them as sex slaves. They rape their SOUL. Not just their bodies. And you want to tell me those people are worthy of breathing the same air as YOU?
:roll:
First of all, you've now lumped together 5 separate crimes, each of which would draw separate charges and punishments:
• pedophilia
• kidnapping
• human trafficking
• involuntarily drugging a child
• raping a child
That has NOTHING to do with this case. In this instance, Turner and his 22 year old victim were intoxicated. Two other students bumped into them behind a fraternity, and realized that Turner was on top of her while she was unconscious. Subsequent tests showed some type of penetrating trauma.
There is no question that he raped her, as she was absolutely incapable of consent. Nor am I in any way minimizing his crime. There is also no question that what Turner did was
completely different than someone who kidnaps, drugs, rapes and traffics a child.
Not all solutions have to be "nuanced" and "complicated." Some are pretty ****ing simple really, as simple as not committing the crime really. You don't want to be killed for rape? Don't rape! Simple.
Simple? OK then, here is simple:
There is no evidence that the death penalty deters crime. None, zero, nada, zip zilch.
Next time, try to present a rational argument that shows a passing familiarity with the facts of the case, ktxh