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Transgender man denied hysterectomy at Mercy San Juan | The Sacramento Bee

Transgender man denied hysterectomy at Mercy San Juan​

Tuesday was supposed to be a big day for Evan Michael Minton. The Fair Oaks resident packed his bags for the hospital, said a prayer and counted down the hours until he would undergo the hysterectomy that would take him one step further in his transition from female to male. Instead he spent the day on the phone with doctors and lawyers after Mercy San Juan hospital in Carmichael abruptly canceled the procedure on religious grounds. The surgery, part of Minton’s transition to a fully male body, had been scheduled for three weeks but was called off Monday as hospital officials were preparing his admissions paperwork. Both Minton and his surgeon, Dr. Lindsey Dawson, said they were caught unawares by the hospital’s decision. “I was a little bit blindsided by it,” said Dawson, a Sacramento obstetrician gynecologist in private practice who said the majority of her hysterectomies are done at Mercy San Juan.


The hospital, part of the Dignity Health chain, said the procedure goes against its anti-sterilization policies, which are based on ethical and religious directives issued in 2009 by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. In a statement, Dignity Health, which until 2012 was affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church, declined to discuss Minton’s case, citing patient privacy laws. “In general, it is our practice not to provide sterilization services at Dignity Health’s Catholic facilities,” said spokeswoman Melissa Jue, in an emailed statement. Sterilization procedures, such as hysterectomies or tubal ligations, she said, are permitted by Catholic hospitals only to cure or alleviate a “serious pathology and (if) a simpler treatment is not available.” In Minton’s case, there is a clear, medical need for a hysterectomy, according to his surgeon. “Gender dysphoria is very clearly a pathology,” said Dawson. “It’s a recognized state of health,” noting that national obstetrics groups recommend that transitioning transgender patients be put on hormones and provided with appropriate surgeries.
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WOW!!! completely disgusting and totally discriminatory. I hope a case is brought against them and it goes as far as possible. "Religious grounds and Directives" should have ZERO impact at a hospital with regarding procedures that need done per a patients doctor. And what logical, justifiable or legal reason does the "U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops" get to trump laws, rights and medical science at a hospital, thats a completely broken system that needs fixed.? Its simply asinine for them to have say over medical science. This is why protections for sexual orientation and gender identity etc are going national and spreading further every day. Ignorance, bigotry and complete vile discrimination like this in areas it has no place to be.

oh the type of people that are going to be so butt hurt over the rights of Americans being protected is going to be funny. Those few just try to keep discriminating and pushing people down that its going to help their worst nightmares come true. . .thier nightmare of equal rights and equality is going to spread faster and faster because of their own bigoted action and they arent even smart enough to relize it! Keep up the good work! LOL
 
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There are other hospitals in the area that can and will do his surgery, and accept his insurance.

I blame the hospital for not rejecting it at the first review.

My favorite line from the article: "
“When I got that news, I fell on the ground and cried uncontrollably,” LOL. Man up, you sissy!

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Despite Tuesday’s surgery cancellation, Dr. Dawson said Dignity Health officials were helpful in getting her set up with emergency privileges at Methodist Hospital of Sacramento, a Dignity Health facility that is not bound by Catholic doctrines.

“I don’t blame the staff,” Dawson said. “I don’t blame the administrators. I blame the (Catholic) doctrines.”

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It seems odd that they would have gotten through the scheduling with both patient and surgeon only to cancel at the last moment. Don't know why they did that. But it is a private hospital, yes? Then they have some control over the procedures they allow.
 
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I'm sorry, but in what way is a hysterectomy necessary a surgery for this individual? Exactly why should doctors purposely harm their patient like this? The individual is supposed to have those organs and they appear to be healthy. The surgery should be denied.

Also, the full male body thing makes me laugh. So when she is getting her testicles? Oh right...
 
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Sterilization procedures, such as hysterectomies or tubal ligations, she said, are permitted by Catholic hospitals only to cure or alleviate a “serious pathology and (if) a simpler treatment
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Their position stated here is medically ethically sound, while mutilating and removing functions of a patient is not. Cram your objection to a doctor not consenting to harming their patient.
 
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AGENT J said:
WOW!!! completely disgusting and totally discriminatory.
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How so? They don't do sterilization on men or women, trans or normal gendered. If you want sterilization surgery, best go to a hospital that will perform such (i.e. non religious).
 
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Henrin said:
1.)I'm sorry, but in what way is a hysterectomy necessary a surgery for this individual?
2.) Exactly why should doctors purposely harm their patient like this?
3.) The individual is supposed to have those organs and they appear to be healthy. The surgery should be denied.
4.) Also, the full male body thing makes me laugh. So when she is getting her testicles? Oh right...
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1.) not your decision in any wa, thats for the docotos and medical science to determine
2.) meaningless opinion
3.) more meaningless opinion see #1
4.) and MORE meaningless opinion LMAO
Do you have anything factual and accurate which is on topic to add? LMAO
 
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chuckiechan said:
There are other hospitals in the area that can and will do his surgery, and accept his insurance.

I blame the hospital for not rejecting it at the first review.

My favorite line from the article: "
“When I got that news, I fell on the ground and cried uncontrollably,” LOL. Man up, you sissy!

Read more here: Transgender man denied hysterectomy at Mercy San Juan | The Sacramento Bee

One more thing:
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I agree with Dawson, no "catholic doctrines" should have ANY power over hospitals and medical science.
 
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AGENT J said:
1.) not your decision in any wa, thats for the docotos and medical science to determine
2.) meaningless opinion
3.) more meaningless opinion see #1
4.) and MORE meaningless opinion LMAO
Do you have anything factual and accurate which is on topic to add? LMAO
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^ Worthless post that ignores it's not his labor that will be called on to provide the surgery.

It also just so happens to ignore the first rule of medical ethics, which this surgery would most definitely break.
 
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Ikari said:
It seems odd that they would have gotten through the scheduling with both patient and surgeon only to cancel at the last moment. Don't know why they did that. But it is a private hospital, yes? Then they have some control over the procedures they allow.
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Some control I agree but no catholic doctrine or group of bishops should trump medical science. IMO any system that allows this is broken and needs fixed.
 
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chuckiechan said:
There are other hospitals in the area that can and will do his surgery, and accept his insurance.

I blame the hospital for not rejecting it at the first review.

My favorite line from the article: "
“When I got that news, I fell on the ground and cried uncontrollably,” LOL. Man up, you sissy!

Read more here: Transgender man denied hysterectomy at Mercy San Juan | The Sacramento Bee

One more thing:
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1. Wants to be a man.

2. Cries on the floor like a girl when refused service.

Great start. :lol:
 
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AGENT J said:
Some control I agree but no catholic doctrine or group of bishops should trump medical science.
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Whether or not you grasp the distinction (and I really do not care if you do or don't, so I'm not even going to argue with you over it), declining to perform a procedure isn't a question of "medical science." It's a question of ethics. And ethics is an entirely appropriate realm for Catholic doctrine.
 
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buck said:
How so? They don't do sterilization on men or women, trans or normal gendered. If you want sterilization surgery, best go to a hospital that will perform such (i.e. non religious).
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You need to read again because they do and most of the ones in the area are done there. The surgery was actually schedule and on the day of when the patient mentions why they canceled THEN. ZERO hospitals should be religious in the medical practice part.
 
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Henrin said:
^ Worthless post that ignores it's not his labor that will be called on to provide the surgery.
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Translation: you cant back up anything you said with actual facts. Unless of course you can quote where i said its his labor? oh thats right you cant. Your post fails again LMAO
 
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And is the little pansy really going to sue? Did I read that right? Again, great start on the path to being a man. lol
 
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AGENT J said:
Translation: you cant back up anything you said with actual facts. Unless of course you can quote where i said its his labor? oh thats right you cant. Your post fails again LMAO
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Who is having their labor being called on, Agent? Answer the question.
 
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This was an entirely elective procedure so I cannot fault the hospital for refusing to perform it, but they're deserving of scorn for their abrubt cancellation.
 
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Napoleon said:
This was an entirely elective procedure so I cannot fault the hospital for refusing to perform it, but they're deserving of scorn for their abrubt cancellation.
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Yeah, I will agree with that. They should have handled this better.
 
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Elective and frivolous surgery; if they're willing to do it and she's willing to pay for it, fine.

They're not willing. She can try to find someone else to perform her elective and frivolous surgery.
 
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Pick another hospital. Spare us the feaux outrage.
 
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AGENT J said:
Some control I agree but no catholic doctrine or group of bishops should trump medical science. IMO any system that allows this is broken and needs fixed.
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There are many reasons why the healthcare system is broken, but in the case of a private hospital they shouldn't have to perform these sorts of surgeries. They shouldn't have let it get as far as they did if they didn't want to offer that service.
 
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Harshaw said:
Whether or not you grasp the distinction (and I really do not care if you do or don't, so I'm not even going to argue with you over it), declining to perform a procedure isn't a question of "medical science." It's a question of ethics. And ethics is an entirely appropriate realm for Catholic doctrine.
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Actually it is both and you just proved it, they are ignoring medical science and deeming the medical procedure not necessary based on what???? NOT medical science and based on catholic doctrine which has no business controlling a hospital and trumping medical science or justifying discretion in a hospital.

Is that their ethics? yes, are they using their eithic to trump medical science? yes
 
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Henrin said:
Who is having their labor being called on, Agent? Answer the question.
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are you demanding i answer your strawman question when you dodges and ran from mine? LMAO :laughat:
Ill ask you again where did I say its his labor? answer the question Henrin :)
 
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Ikari said:
There are many reasons why the healthcare system is broken, but in the case of a private hospital they shouldn't have to perform these sorts of surgeries. They shouldn't have let it get as far as they did if they didn't want to offer that service.
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Thats the problem though, they DO offer this procedure and it seems they are the leader of it in the area. It was only denied once they found out the patient was transgendering.

ANd to be honest I only agree with them choosing what services as long as its not an issue with unfair burden, letting people indirectly control the choices of others.
Not saying this is the case here im just giving a crazy over the top example to explain what I mean, if all of a sudden every hospital in a 200 mile radius became under the control of the Sith ands they would give treatment to any Jedis, thats an issue. lol
 
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AGENT J said:
Actually it is both and you just proved it, they are ignoring medical science and deeming the medical procedure not necessary based
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That's just abject stupidity on your part. I didn't say a thing about whether or not it was "necessary."


Is that their ethics? yes, are they using their eithic to trump medical science? yes
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No, they aren't, but like I said, I do not CARE if you grasp the distinction. Your understanding is not required.
 
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