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Majority of Voters Want Donald Trump to Release Tax Returns: Poll

jmotivator said:
I'm glad you admit they are baseless accusations.
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Please muster enough integrity to not misrepresent what I said. I made no such admission. Whether it is baseless or valid can only be established by fact not by anything you or I say.
 
jmotivator said:
Not straw men at all. You argued that you have made no claims about the contents of Trump's tax returns and then minutes later state that you want Trump's tax returns in order to add evidence to your narrative. You are either complete lacking in self awareness or lying.
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Add terrible reading comprehension to your list of straw men, deflections and red herrings. I don't know what's in his tax return because I haven't seen it. However, based on the fact that he refuses to show his return (and he won't, not ever, that's a bet I'll make with you here if you like), that past tax returns have shown that he hasn't paid any taxes at all, and that he lies about his net assets, it is fair to assume that there is something that likewise contradicts his narratives in his current return. If his contradictions and lies don't make you go "Hmmm..." that's not keeping an open mind, that's letting your brains spill out the back of your head.

And yes, you've almost exclusively resorted to straw men while debating me here. In fact, it's fair to assume that your response to this post will once again be packed with them.
 
jmotivator said:
And by "more evidence" you mean "any evidence". Got it.
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The Right Wing is crying transperancy from the Clinton camp, fair enough. Trump asking for the Foundations records is fair, in turn its more than fair for the other side to ask for something from the Don, other canidates have willingly supplied. You cant have one rule for Clinton, and another for the Don, currently the Trump campaign wants it both ways.
 
I stand slack-jawed and drooling at the fact that Trump supporters aren't concerned that he won't show his tax returns. He said he would. Now he won't.

He demanded Obama's birth certificate and is making silly demands that Hillary release her medical records, and any other retarded shifting of the goal posts he can conjure up, but his taxes are off limits? He's above everyone else who's been willing to do it?

Hypocrisy has its degrees and the nature of reality is such that hypocrisy is inevitable. We're all hypocrites in some way or another by virtue of the fact that most of us don't practice what we preach at all times. However, when a person has not only the opportunity, but the obligation to not commit or avoid an act of gross hypocrisy, the fact that they unapologetically go ahead and commit the act should give you that greasy feeling in your stomach like you just ate a severely tainted tamale. You may not know how many billions of bacterial cells you've just swallowed or what kind of bacteria is about to make you explode from both ends, but you know that something is seriously wrong. What you don't do is take another bite of that same tamale.
 
Opopanax said:
I stand slack-jawed and drooling at the fact that Trump supporters aren't concerned that he won't show his tax returns. He said he would. Now he won't.

He demanded Obama's birth certificate and is making silly demands that Hillary release her medical records, and any other retarded shifting of the goal posts he can conjure up, but his taxes are off limits? He's above everyone else who's been willing to do it?

Hypocrisy has its degrees and the nature of reality is such that hypocrisy is inevitable. We're all hypocrites in some way or another by virtue of the fact that most of us don't practice what we preach at all times. However, when a person has not only the opportunity, but the obligation to not commit or avoid an act of gross hypocrisy, the fact that they unapologetically go ahead and commit the act should give you that greasy feeling in your stomach like you just ate a severely tainted tamale. You may not know how many billions of bacterial cells you've just swallowed or what kind of bacteria is about to make you explode from both ends, but you know that something is seriously wrong. What you don't do is take another bite of that same tamale.
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It is veryl hypocritical of the Don and his supporters to demand the records from Clinton, but they have the audacity to give Trump a free pass, somethings never change.
 
Born Free said:
His net worth is $1.00 does that disqualify him to be president.
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I'm a Sanders supporter, and he's notorious for not having used his position to enrich himself. What does that tell you?
 
Mason66 said:
The thread title says "majority of voters" which means all voters were polled and the majority wanted something.

Your op references a poll taken but it was not all voters in the country, so you cannot say the majority want anything.
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You were being facetious here. Right?
 
Well, personally, I agree with Trump. Maybe the reason the IRS is auditing him is because they have a bias against him because of his Christian faith. The poor man.
 
tres borrachos said:
Well, personally, I agree with Trump. Maybe the reason the IRS is auditing him is because they have a bias against him because of his Christian faith. The poor man.
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Donald Trump is a Christian as much as I am religious.
 
Cardinal said:
I'm a Sanders supporter, and he's notorious for not having used his position to enrich himself. What does that tell you?
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You're a Sanders supporter, sorry to tell you he's not running for president.
 
Born Free said:
You're a Sanders supporter, sorry to tell you he's not running for president.
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Did you already forget the question I was responding to? I know Trump supporters have a short term memory, but dayum.
 
Born Free said:
There's not a whole lot of evidence to suggest this is true. Since when do you need a whole lot.

Look at these sites, manbe this will help

https://www.trumpgolf.com/Our-Courses

Trump Real Estate Portfolio: Donald J Trump Organization Luxury Residential Resort Hotel Golf Commercial Office Retail Property

Trump Hotel Collection | Trump Hotel Portfolio | Donald J Trump Organization
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So when you see a guy with a Bugatti and a 6000sq/ft home, your first thought is "this guy is rich"?
 
Jetboogieman said:
Trumps own websites?

Wow.

What compelling evidence :roll:
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I own Ferragamo shoes and a $9000 Rolex watch (both true). I'm rich! You don't need to know anything else, don't look under the hood!
 
Jetboogieman said:
Trumps own websites?

Wow.

What compelling evidence :roll:
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All the website does is show you where to go to see his golf courses, hotels, and office buildings.

WOW Hillary has a website and of course everything in her website we all know is a lie. But with Trumps all you have to do is go look, touch and feel his successes on site.
 
Cardinal said:
So when you see a guy with a Bugatti and a 6000sq/ft home, your first thought is "this guy is rich"?
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Trump could give you his certified financial statement and you would call it a lie.
 
prometeus said:
As I said, I do not care, ...
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Then you have no point and the response stands.


prometeus said:
Yet some deal makers do not screw over others. It is one of those pesky honesty things, something apparently you care little about.
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Honesty? You have the gall to speak about honesty? iLOL
Honesty involves looking at both sides of the story and not just the allegations.
Most allegation against Trump have been bs.


prometeus said:
It needs not fly, but judging by your denial it must be soaring.
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iLOL So you are admitting that your imagination is soaring. Figures.


prometeus said:
Have someone explain it to you, as crayons are hard to do here.
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Just because you do not know how to use crayons doesn't mean your response didn't jibe as stated.
Once you learn how to use those crayons get back with me, then I can teach you to color within the lines.


prometeus said:
No, I am concerned about what he is hiding as a presidential candidate.
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You haven't shown any evidence that he is hiding anything.
I guess you are incapable of understanding that.


prometeus said:
Nobody want anyone to dig, just a simple disclosure.
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Spin.


prometeus said:
Not at all, but you are still deflecting and now poorly attempting to project.

Your denials are not convincing.

After the fact, I mean election, could be a little late.
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iLOL Besides being absurdly wrong , your dishonesty and bs doesn't fly either.


prometeus said:
It is exactly that.
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Prove it.
Oh that right you can't because you have no evidence to suggest that, all you have are the manifestations of your overactive imagination.


prometeus said:
Biased, because unlike you I do not by into his demagoguery?
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You again show you know not of what you speak.


prometeus said:
Not my time table, it was established by others who had nothing to hide.
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No, you are demanding something that he does not have to turn over and you want it on your time table.


prometeus said:
There is no other explanation, but you you have a rational one I would love to see it.
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Hilarious.
You have no evidence. You don't just get to make things up to believe. Period.


prometeus said:
This is politics and appearances do count.
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Where you the one saying that the Hispanic Judge that has supported an illegal and has ties to an organization that is openly and actively involved in opposition to Trump had an appearance of impropriety?


prometeus said:
It is not a matter of entitlement, but as another poster put is and right on the point too, he is running on his record as a successful business man and there is little else that is factual that that claim can be verified.
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You do not need his tax records to establish that he has been successful.
We all know he has. Period. That is why what that person said is nonsense.


prometeus said:
Actually he is, less you believe his BS with the rest of minions that follow him and apologize for all the stupidity he has demonstrated.
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Your reply is stupid and based in your irrational bias, especially as to everything past your comma.

He is not and has not told anyone to stuff it.
He has made it clear they will be released when the audit is over.
You just don't like that.
Too bad.


prometeus said:
Sure, sure, keep telling yourself that...
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That you do not understand reality is telling.


prometeus said:
Or so you believe.
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You would have to show actual evidence (not absurd speculation) that refutes that advice for it not to be believable, and you simply do not have that.
 
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