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Ahead of speech targeting Trump, Clinton accuses him of peddling hate

Harry Guerrilla said:
This isn't the 1st time, it's the 3rd.
Guilt by association and plenty of people will fall for it.
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I hope not, but a lot of people take in info, sadly, in manageable little sound bytes. The good news is that a lot of those people are going to be disgusted by what little they hear.

Is it fair to conclude that this is going to perhaps be the dirtiest, most vicious Presidential cycle of our lifetimes?
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
You said they were linked.
Other than agreeing on something, that's about the extent of their "link" and because we don't have any more information about that, we can't assume much else.

You don't have to like Don Trump and you can also disagree with petty logical fallacies, like Hillary is using.
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They are linked even if it is a one way link, they linked themselves to him. This makes people question Why they would link themselves to him, and that is the downside. The upside is Hillary has the same problem being linked to the communists. I disagree with both of them, do not care one bit who supports either when it comes to my stand.
 
nota bene said:
I hope not, but a lot of people take in info, sadly, in manageable little sound bytes, sigh.

Is it fair to conclude that this is going to perhaps be the dirtiest, most vicious Presidential cycle of our lifetimes?
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Nah.
I can't remember each specific election, but they've had some rather nasty ones historically.
This is just par for the course.

Which should be disappointing, because we should be improving, rather than repeating.
 
nota bene said:
From WaPo:

“Donald Trump has shown us who he is, and we ought to believe him,” the Democratic nominee told host Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night on CNN. “He is taking a hate movement mainstream. He’s brought it into his campaign. He’s bringing it to our communities and our country.”

To underscore her argument, Clinton’s campaign on Thursday released a video depicting Ku Klux Klan members and white supremacists who are supporting Trump, warning that if the Republican nominee wins, they and others who are part of the alt-right “could be running the country.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3f1ade-6a78-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html

Trying to link Trump to the KKK is utterly despicable. Shameful.
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Racism is all they have. Their(her) policies at home and abroad are failures.
 
Casper said:
They are linked even if it is a one way link, they linked themselves to him. This makes people question Why they would link themselves to him, and that is the downside. The upside is Hillary has the same problem being linked to the communists. I disagree with both of them, do not care one bit who supports either when it comes to my stand.
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Check this out, people who do and/or think bad things, can sometimes do/think good things.

Hitler was actually a good painter.
Crazy stuff.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Nah.
I can't remember each specific election, but they've had some rather nasty ones historically.
This is just par for the course.

Which should be disappointing, because we should be improving, rather than repeating.
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Well, I specified "of our lifetimes" as opposed to, say, back in Andrew Jackson's day.
 
coldjoint said:
Racism is all they have. Their(her) policies at home and abroad are failures.
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I hope this is all they have, that this is as low as it gets.

Negative campaigning can produce the opposite of the hoped-for voter response. A lot of people hate negative campaigning, period.
 
Thread: Ahead of speech targeting Trump, Clinton accuses him of peddling hate

How dare he. That is her campaigns chief weapon, peddling hate.
 
That's part of it. But it's not just that the garbage can be spread instantly; it's that we tend toward fast-food minds too.
 
nota bene said:
I hope this is all they have, that this is as low as it gets.

Negative campaigning can produce the opposite of the hoped-for voter response. A lot of people hate negative campaigning, period.
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I have said a while ago this could be an election with a very low turnout.
 
apdst said:
The post I replied to did.
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I didn't say Trump started it. I said he linked Cruz's father to the assassination. And he did.

Hey, it's simple. Trump got to expect dirty politics in return. He's run the dirtiest, nastiest, campaign in a long, long, time. I can't understand why some people think it's OK for 1 side to run a dirty, negative campaign but then get upset if the other side retaliates.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Trump tried to link Cruz's father to the JFK assassination. He's hinted that Clinton might be assassinated by a 2nd amendment supporter. He attacked some of his GOP rivals looks and 'eating habits'. And on and on and on.

When it comes to personal attacks the man has no boundaries.

So I find it odd and a little funny when his opponents attack him that Trump, and his supporters become offended. Supposedly he is where he is because of his 'gloves off' and 'tell it like it is' style. But that's only a 1-way street? When talking about trump his opponents suppose to be civil and polite?

No, that's not how it works. If he's going to throw crap he's going to get it thrown back at him.

If he wants respect he must be respectful. The way he's acted and ran his campaign he doesn't deserve respect from anyone.
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Yea, Trump's said some nasty stuff, but this thread isn't about what he said. It's about what SHE said. Deflect much?
 
If members of NAMBLA said they're in support of me and my endeavor, I'll do everything I can to let the world know "I'm not with them!".

Trump didn't reject the support of terrorists and racists. That absolutely says something about him. Trying to argue that it doesn't is just dumb.

So IMO, Hilary has a good point.
 
danarhea said:
Yea, Trump's said some nasty stuff, but this thread isn't about what he said. It's about what SHE said. Deflect much?
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Not a deflection. I'm just wondering how given what Trump has said about Cruz, POW's, Handicapped people, Clinton, and on and on how any Trump supporter could be pissed off at ANYONE who says negative things about Trump.

They love Trump's no nonsense, anti-PC rhetoric. They're screaming kill the bitch at his rallies. So now that the no nonsense, gloves off rhetoric is coming back at him they are offended? Life doesn't work that way, let alone politics.
 
nota bene said:
From WaPo:

“Donald Trump has shown us who he is, and we ought to believe him,” the Democratic nominee told host Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night on CNN. “He is taking a hate movement mainstream. He’s brought it into his campaign. He’s bringing it to our communities and our country.”

To underscore her argument, Clinton’s campaign on Thursday released a video depicting Ku Klux Klan members and white supremacists who are supporting Trump, warning that if the Republican nominee wins, they and others who are part of the alt-right “could be running the country.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3f1ade-6a78-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html

Trying to link Trump to the KKK is utterly despicable. Shameful.
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nota bene said:
I don't find anything about this funny; I find it reprehensible.
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This was one year ago. The hate has only become more outspoken since.

 
nota bene said:
From WaPo:

“Donald Trump has shown us who he is, and we ought to believe him,” the Democratic nominee told host Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night on CNN. “He is taking a hate movement mainstream. He’s brought it into his campaign. He’s bringing it to our communities and our country.”

To underscore her argument, Clinton’s campaign on Thursday released a video depicting Ku Klux Klan members and white supremacists who are supporting Trump, warning that if the Republican nominee wins, they and others who are part of the alt-right “could be running the country.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3f1ade-6a78-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html

Trying to link Trump to the KKK is utterly despicable. Shameful.
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Seemed to be inevitable. He's always had an enthusiastic following in the alt-right and the racist dregs online. Them supporting you isn't an embrace of their beliefs, but then he goes and hires Bannon who is proud that Breitbart is according to him THE outlet for the alt-right, which just does have a big streak of white supremacists, anti-semites and racists in their midst. They claim to be 'nationalist' but not 'white nationalist' but that's a small step, really.
 
nota bene said:
I hope this is all they have, that this is as low as it gets.

Negative campaigning can produce the opposite of the hoped-for voter response. A lot of people hate negative campaigning, period.
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Apparently 14 million republicans loved it and now they have Trump to show for it.
 
Its been said since before the campaign that this is what the rat campaign strategy will come down to. Racism and the war on women. So unimaginative.
 
Tettsuo said:
If members of NAMBLA said they're in support of me and my endeavor, I'll do everything I can to let the world know "I'm not with them!".

Trump didn't reject the support of terrorists and racists. That absolutely says something about him. Trying to argue that it doesn't is just dumb.

So IMO, Hilary has a good point.
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Has Hillary rejected support from the Communist party in America. Has she rejected financial support from Saudi Arabia or other counties that enforce Sharia?
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Not a deflection. I'm just wondering how given what Trump has said about Cruz, POW's, Handicapped people, Clinton, and on and on how any Trump supporter could be pissed off at ANYONE who says negative things about Trump.

They love Trump's no nonsense, anti-PC rhetoric. They're screaming kill the bitch at his rallies. So now that the no nonsense, gloves off rhetoric is coming back at him they are offended? Life doesn't work that way, let alone politics.
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Yes, it IS a deflection. The subject, once again, is not about what he is saying. it's about what SHE is saying. Of course, you are free to start a thread about what Trump is saying. I will probably agree with you, but it's no reason to try and derail this one.
 
Since Donald Trump is a lifelong Democrat and only became a Republican recently he's not used to being attacked by racist Democrats for being a racist. Conservatives and Republicans are so used to it we don't pay much attention.

We'll see if Donald Trump is hypocritical enough to whine about personal attacks. Has he apologized to Carly Fiorina or Serge Kovaleski yet?
 
coldjoint said:
Has Hillary rejected support from the Communist party in America. Has she rejected financial support from Saudi Arabia or other counties that enforce Sharia?
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What are you talking about?

What does any of the above have to do what Hillary said about Trump?
 
nota bene said:
From WaPo:

“Donald Trump has shown us who he is, and we ought to believe him,” the Democratic nominee told host Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night on CNN. “He is taking a hate movement mainstream. He’s brought it into his campaign. He’s bringing it to our communities and our country.”

To underscore her argument, Clinton’s campaign on Thursday released a video depicting Ku Klux Klan members and white supremacists who are supporting Trump, warning that if the Republican nominee wins, they and others who are part of the alt-right “could be running the country.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3f1ade-6a78-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html

Trying to link Trump to the KKK is utterly despicable. Shameful.
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Stupid decision. That just opens the door for him to link Communists to her.

Crap like this doesn't change the allegiance of the base and generally fails to sway the independents who see right through the smoke screen.
 
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