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Donald Trump's Description of Black America Is Offending Those Living in It

straykatz said:
What is stopping them right now from applying/filling those jobs?
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One big problem with job opportunities is the result of something I call the "spanification" of the workforce. This means that when the majority of the workers are Spanish speaking, non-Spanish speaking workers are excluded and ostracized.

This is a significant issue, and one I have been dealing with for decades. This methodical cultural isolation effort results in exclusionary attitudes and activities that make for a very difficult workplace.

Imaging everyone where you work speaking a language you can't understand.
 
ocean515 said:
One big problem with job opportunities is the result of something I call the "spanification" of the workforce. This means that when the majority of the workers are Spanish speaking, non-Spanish speaking workers are excluded and ostracized.

This is a significant issue, and one I have been dealing with for decades. This methodical cultural isolation effort results in exclusionary attitudes and activities that make for a very difficult workplace.

Imaging everyone where you work speaking a language you can't understand.
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i cannot imagine anyone being within that situation for DECADES and still being unable to speak/understand the language
 
VanceMack said:
How the **** would you know what he is actually offering and BTW...WTF do you actually care? Hell...the dems have been recipients of 70+ @ of black voter support since the 30s. Dems run pretty much every major city in the country and they run the cities and the black community right into the ground. Seriously...WTF do you even care?
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My "like" doesn't work, consider this it
 
VanceMack said:
People that look to be offended usually find what they are seeking.
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That might be true sometimes. But for Mr. Trump, one really doesn't need to look.
 
VanceMack said:
How the **** would you know what he is actually offering
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Exactly!...that is my point...no one knows what he is offering - I doubt he knows. He just wants people to blindly follow him on some "unknown" take a chance on me - what have you got to lose offer.
 
TheGoverness said:
I wanna hear Trump's plan on how he's going to prevent black people from being shot in the hood.

Maybe he can show up to help like the StateFarm guy.
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I'm hoping the first thing he'll do is convince those in the hood not to vote in Democrat mayors like they seem to do every time.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
It seems that, according to some, "regular" black people can only be addressed by "black leaders". The nerve of Trump - having the same message for black and white folks alike. ;)
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No, I think he's saying speaking to an audience approximately 99% white about problems faced by blacks is probably not an effective outreach to....blacks.

If he wants to address problems facing the black community as a whole, maybe he ought to schedule a bit of time talking to, I don't know, black people. It's a radical idea for a (alleged) $billionaire white person to get out of his Manhattan bubble, but perhaps worth the effort if he's truly interested in convincing blacks he's got their back, instead of putting on a show for whites uncomfortable voting for a bigot, which seems FAR more likely.

Bottom line is he just hired a guy proud of the fact his media outlet is the go-to site for the alt-right, which is chock full of white supremacists and straight up racists and anti-semites. The idea that he's really trying to appeal to minorities is pretty ludicrous. If that was his goal, he sure as hell wouldn't put Bannon at the top of his campaign.
 
justabubba said:
i cannot imagine anyone being within that situation for DECADES and still being unable to speak/understand the language
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I'd love to give you a tour through factories and businesses here in Southern California.

And it's not that many of the Spanish speakers can't speak English, it's that they chose not to in front of other co-workers.

It's against the law to require English only in the workplace.

http://www.employees-lawyer.com/english-only-policies-california/

Can't tell you how many times workers have complained about it. I wouldn't like it either.
 
JasperL said:
No, I think he's saying speaking to an audience approximately 99% white about problems faced by blacks is probably not an effective outreach to....blacks.

If he wants to address problems facing the black community as a whole, maybe he ought to schedule a bit of time talking to, I don't know, black people. It's a radical idea for a (alleged) $billionaire white person to get out of his Manhattan bubble, but perhaps worth the effort if he's truly interested in convincing blacks he's got their back, instead of putting on a show for whites uncomfortable voting for a bigot, which seems FAR more likely.

Bottom line is he just hired a guy proud of the fact his media outlet is the go-to site for the alt-right, which is chock full of white supremacists and straight up racists and anti-semites. The idea that he's really trying to appeal to minorities is pretty ludicrous. If that was his goal, he sure as hell wouldn't put Bannon at the top of his campaign.
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^^ nailed it !!!!
 
Cephus said:
Of course not, he's being realistic and all they want are handouts. The fact is, the poor black community is screwed up, they're doing it to themselves and they don't like that fact being pointed out. They'd rather vote for a Democrat who lies to them but doesn't have their best interests at heart than a Republican who tells the truth and actually wants to help solve their problems.
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The problem that sticks out like a sore thumb is that about 70% of blacks are born to unwed mothers. To have that many boys growing up without a father in the home almost guarantees that many of them will not grow up to be good citizens. But I don't see any non-blacks forcing blacks to conceive children outside marriage. If any whites bear some responsibility for that, it is the so-called liberals who created financial incentives for black women to have illegitimate children.

I don't see what Mr. Trump has to lose by talking frankly about how so-called liberals have harmed blacks through the policies they support. Encouraging illegal immigration, dependence on government, and indolence is hardly the way to help black Americans. Pseudo-liberals may smile in blacks' faces, but they expect their Negroes to know that their place is on Uncle Sam's plantation.
 
Reed95 said:
That might be true sometimes. But for Mr. Trump, one really doesn't need to look.
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Really? You should check out the CNN video of the BLM leaders explaining that the reason they launched their campaign against Trump was because he was racist against Latinos and said some harsh things to Rosie O Donnel and Megan Kelly. And...well...that's it.

Trump said the same thing black leaders in this country have been saying for decades. Why then does his comments hit their brown notes?


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straykatz said:
Exactly!...that is my point...no one knows what he is offering - I doubt he knows. He just wants people to blindly follow him on some "unknown" take a chance on me - what have you got to lose offer.
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Unless of course you have gone to his website and read his actual words. Amiright?


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VanceMack said:
Unless of course you have gone to his website and read his actual words. Amiright?


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There is nothing on his website - if there is then perhaps you can point me to the exact place where it states exactly what he plans to do to fix/improve working/living/community/racial/etc. issues specifically affecting black citizens and communities/cities. He has offered nothing except the opportunity to take a chance....maybe some are willing to take a chance but most people want to know what the prize is and their odds before gambling. A chance is not a prize.
 
JasperL said:
No, I think he's saying speaking to an audience approximately 99% white about problems faced by blacks is probably not an effective outreach to....blacks.

If he wants to address problems facing the black community as a whole, maybe he ought to schedule a bit of time talking to, I don't know, black people. It's a radical idea for a (alleged) $billionaire white person to get out of his Manhattan bubble, but perhaps worth the effort if he's truly interested in convincing blacks he's got their back, instead of putting on a show for whites uncomfortable voting for a bigot, which seems FAR more likely.

Bottom line is he just hired a guy proud of the fact his media outlet is the go-to site for the alt-right, which is chock full of white supremacists and straight up racists and anti-semites. The idea that he's really trying to appeal to minorities is pretty ludicrous. If that was his goal, he sure as hell wouldn't put Bannon at the top of his campaign.
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Bingo!
 
TheGoverness said:
Well, it's gonna be a fruitless effort on his part. He's said too many things to disparage minorities from voting for him, and honestly, considering the fact that Trump's a GOP candidate, he didn't really have much of a chance to acquire the black vote to begin with.
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Then you should be happy that he's wasting his time, so leave him alone.
 
JasperL said:
No, I think he's saying speaking to an audience approximately 99% white about problems faced by blacks is probably not an effective outreach to....blacks.

If he wants to address problems facing the black community as a whole, maybe he ought to schedule a bit of time talking to, I don't know, black people. It's a radical idea for a (alleged) $billionaire white person to get out of his Manhattan bubble, but perhaps worth the effort if he's truly interested in convincing blacks he's got their back, instead of putting on a show for whites uncomfortable voting for a bigot, which seems FAR more likely.

Bottom line is he just hired a guy proud of the fact his media outlet is the go-to site for the alt-right, which is chock full of white supremacists and straight up racists and anti-semites. The idea that he's really trying to appeal to minorities is pretty ludicrous. If that was his goal, he sure as hell wouldn't put Bannon at the top of his campaign.
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How do you know he hasn't tried? Maybe they don't want him there.
 
straykatz said:
There is nothing on his website - if there is then perhaps you can point me to the exact place where it states exactly what he plans to do to fix/improve working/living/community/racial/etc. issues specifically affecting black citizens and communities/cities.
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I can find absolutely nothing on Trump's campaign website that addresses African-American questions/concerns.

Closest thing in that vein is a video by Lynne M. Patton, Vice President of the Eric Trump Foundation (black female / six year Trump employee) chatting about why African-Americans should consider supporting the GOP nominee.
 
American said:
How do you know he hasn't tried? Maybe they don't want him there.
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If he's "tried" he didn't make much of an effort:

NAACP's Cornell William Brooks told CNN that Trump had declined the group's invitation to address its members in Cincinnati at their conference,
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More here and here

The organizations that have asked him to speak include the NAACP, National Urban League, and the National Association of Black Journalists. In some cases, the campaign waited until either the day before or a few days before the planned speaking engagements before declining the offers.
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Even his black supporters are a bit concerned:

He is not the only black conservative confounded by Mr. Trump. Gregory Cheadle, the man Mr. Trump referred to as “my African-American,” said he was inspired by Mr. Trump’s success and wealth but was frustrated that the candidate has not done more to appeal to black voters.

“He’s a billionaire and so his life doesn’t have to include black people,” Mr. Cheadle said. “It would be great if he went to a N.A.A.C.P. meeting or just interacted with blacks more — and not necessarily for political gain — but just to understand our struggle and what we go through.”
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Crovax said:
The same way Obama has, focus on something else and pretend it's not happening
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You do understand that the POTUS can't go into your town and rid it of crime, right? That's for your local mayor, police chief, sheriff to do. And if necessary, state National Guard, yes?

State's rights anyone? :roll:

I mean, here you guys have called Pres. Obama a King and a Dictator, but you're perfectly okay with Trump proclaiming how he'd hire more police officers in these high crime areas and hire more prosecutors to adjudicate them. I don't know what's wrong with your ears, but to me that's a dictator-in-waiting to me.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
It seems that, according to some, "regular" black people can only be addressed by "black leaders". The nerve of Trump - having the same message for black and white folks alike. ;)
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You'd have to define what a "regular" person means...Black, White or otherwise. If by that you (or Trump) means an Average Joe, hard working middle-class individual then I'd fit the bill. But even still I don't feel that Trump is speaking to me because:

1. I don't live in the 'hood; and,

2. I don't live a life of drugs, crime or conduct myself in irresponsible ways as part of my normal way of life.

So, Trump's message of "what do you have to lose" really doesn't resonate with me...at least not in a positive way. Quite the opposite; it pisses me off as a Black man in general.
 
Trump's only crime is to think he can do anything about it. The Democrats gave up a long time ago.
 
ocean515 said:
LOL

No, it most certainly doesn't cover it.

The fact is, the left has chained Black Communities to messaging and dangling election year carrots in front of them for decades. These facts should be discussed, and discussed often. That means regardless of the audience.

Should there be an audience race count during campaign events in order to determine what can be talked about? NO

Should Trump restrict his speeches because certain race thresholds haven't been achieved? NO

Should rational thinking people avoid the racist taunts from the Dog Whistle blowers at the NY Times? YES

Are there people incapable of doing that? Obviously YES
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The left has chained black communities... could you use more unnecessary race based hyperbole?

Trump is perfectly demonstrates the issue with the whole "black people are slaves to the liberal welfare state" meme. The messaging appeals to white people, and white people only. Saying it is not going to attract black voters, and the messaging is actually insulting for many obvious reasons you probably don't understand.
 
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