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Trump says Clinton, Democrats have 'failed and betrayed' African-Americans

Trump is going after the African-American vote. I actually said it when he started to mention African-Americans in his speech, "Trump is finally going after the African-American vote."

Mind you. Trump isn't wooing the dem party, Hillary, the NAACP or BLM, for examples. They're all 100% against Trump and his policies. And they've all failed African-Americans, in his and my opinion.

My question to African-Americans is: do you want to succeed in life as much as you want to succeed in life doing it your way or leaders way?
 
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Sidenote: African-American protestors should have a theme song to go with their rioting. Use "My Way" (as...'I did it my way'), by Frank Sinatra.
 
Kobie said:
Righties love to accuse Democrats of screwing over black people, yet I have never once seen them offer anything that would help them other than telling "them" how "they" ought to behave.
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How about controlling illegal immigration?
 
Abbazorkzog said:
I don't see any problem with Black Lives Matter. The thread topic is the Democrats failing the black community, not BLM (which has done more for African-Americans than the Democrats have in the past 25 years).
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Even though the thread is not about BLM, you made4 the assertion that BLM has done more for blacks than Demos in the past 25 years.

What has BLM done exactly?
 
cabse5 said:
Trump is going after the African-American vote. I actually said it when he started to mention African-Americans in his speech, "Trump is finally going after the African-American vote."

Mind you. Trump isn't wooing the dem party, Hillary, the NAACP or BLM, for examples. They're all 100% against Trump and his policies. And they've all failed African-Americans, in his and my opinion.

My question to African-Americans is: do you want to succeed in life as much as you want to succeed in life doing it your way or leaders way?
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I don't understand why blacks as a group would have anything against Trump.

What has he said or done to that group that could be seen as negative?
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Dude. Trump's still a walking dumpster fire. He's going down in flames. Oh, he'll get "on message" for a day or so, and then off the rails he goes once more. He simply can't help it.

And you know this. Besides, he can "new tone" and "pivot" all month long, but it won't erase all the incredibly stupid, puerile, and prejudicial things he's already said.

It's not a matter of if Hillary's going to win - if she's breathing, she'll win - but how big the landslide's going to be.
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Glen...you could be right....hell, you are PROBABLY right

but i am going to be laughing so damn hard if and when Hillary loses come November

and the people like you that have been proclaiming her victory for months, will be eating a lot of crow

way too many people counting this thing as over already
 
Trump hits on some truth. Democratic policies have been a detriment to African Americans. Since Obama took over, their lives have gotten worse and become more reliant on government assistance.

Trump also touched on a good point in his speech when he said Democrats just see blacks as a vote and only bring up their issues during elections. I haven't seen any major outreach to the African American community by Clinton as an elected official when not running for an election.
 
Kobie said:
Righties love to accuse Democrats of screwing over black people, yet I have never once seen them offer anything that would help them other than telling "them" how "they" ought to behave.
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We're the ones offering them jobs and the pride that goes with it.

You're the ones convincing them to remain on that teet.
 
Mr Person said:
Rich white man instructs black people on which group of rich white men have or have not failed them?
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Since blacks have been voting as a solid and reliable and near total voting bloc for the democrats for 60+ years, 'who' has failed them is rather obvious. Since pretty much every major city in the country is run by democrats and since blacks in those cities face extremes of poverty, crime, and every other misery index indicator...again...its not too hard to see who has failed them. Wouldnt you agree?
 
Mr Person said:
Rich white man instructs black people on which group of rich white men have or have not failed them?
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Since a black man is the head of the Democrat Party, I don't think your statement is correct.
 
Erod said:
We're the ones offering them jobs and the pride that goes with it.

You're the ones convincing them to remain on that teet.
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true. The thing is...'righties' arent telling white people how to behave. They arent telling black people how to behave. They are telling people how to become successful. The ways and means of success are the same for EVERYONE and in fact I would bet that every 'successful' liberal 'lefty' knows it. Hard work. Goals. Values. Personal responsibility. This stuff isnt magic.
 
VanceMack said:
true. The thing is...'righties' arent telling white people how to behave. They arent telling black people how to behave. They are telling people how to become successful. The ways and means of success are the same for EVERYONE and in fact I would bet that every 'successful' liberal 'lefty' knows it. Hard work. Goals. Values. Personal responsibility. This stuff isnt magic.
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Looking in the mirror is hard. We're all a product of our decisions in life.

Democrats conveniently take that mirror away so people that want to can avoid the truth about themselves and find others to blame.
 
VanceMack said:
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You are so predictable and full of **** its scary. Blacks have voted as a solid voting bloc nationwide for the dems for 60+ years and has been continuously ****ed over by democrats for 60+ years. Your continued inane bull**** about the parties shifting polarity has zero to do with that fact. Blacks havent been ****ed over in the south. They havent just been ****ed over in the north. Blacks have been universally ****ed by democrats throughout history.
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Not true. In the South in the 1950's blacks overwhelmingly voted for Eisenhower. That's because, at that time, there was not much difference between southern Democrats and the KKK.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
And what you're forgetting is that's from 1964...at a time when the strongest base of the Democratic party wasn't in the liberal northeast, but in the Democratic "Solid South", where the Dems were very, very conservative - and racist. In other words, the Democratic party of 1964 is far, far different from the Democratic party of today.

'Cause today, the GOP is the party that's got the Deep South (and the racism that's still strong there) as its strongest base.
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So...what you're saying is...democrats used to be a decent party. After 1964 was when democrats started to suck? Cool. Got it.
 
danarhea said:
Not true. In the South in the 1950's blacks overwhelmingly voted for Eisenhower. That's because, at that time, there was not much difference between southern Democrats and the KKK.
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Was LBJ one of those 'new' democrats or was he one of those 'old' democrats? I forget...when did he change his party affiliation? What was his commentary re nominating black justices and signing of the Civil Rights reform?

Blacks have voted as a voting bloc solidly democrat since 1936. Not sure where you got your Ike stats but they dont jibe.
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Dishing out 2016 version of 'Time for Blacks to get off the Dem plantation' speech is not 'outreach to blacks.', to quote J. Marshall.

Amazing how republicans simply never learn.
 
VanceMack said:
Was LBJ one of those 'new' democrats or was he one of those 'old' democrats? I forget...when did he change his party affiliation? What was his commentary re nominating black justices and signing of the Civil Rights reform?

Blacks have voted as a voting bloc solidly democrat since 1936. Not sure where you got your Ike stats but they dont jibe.
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Kennedy was the first Democratic president that blacks voted for because he promised civil rights, and LBJ was not only his VP, but had also promised Civil Rights reform. This was the turning point where blacks in the South began voting Democratic, and where whites in the Old South began to turn to the Republican Party. Malcolm X made his ballot or bullet speech before the process had gone down the road much. In addition, this was also in the days when Malcolm X was still racist against white people, before he went to Mecca and discovered people of all races and colors making the pilgrimage, which caused him to lose his racism. This was one of the reasons for his own assassination later on. Yes, there are black racists too, and they didn't like Malcolm's new message.
 
Mr Person said:
Rich white man instructs black people on which group of rich white men have or have not failed them?
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Mason66 said:
Since a black man is the head of the Democrat Party, I don't think your statement is correct.
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Therefore, the Democratic party is not generally a group of rich white men? What?
 
gdgyva said:
Glen...you could be right....hell, you are PROBABLY right

but i am going to be laughing so damn hard if and when Hillary loses come November

and the people like you that have been proclaiming her victory for months, will be eating a lot of crow

way too many people counting this thing as over already
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It wouldn't be the first time I've eaten crow - if you add enough Tabasco, it's not so bad. Having a good beer to wash it down sometimes makes you forget that it's crow. If you drink enough beer. :beer:

I really don't like calling things ahead of time - I don't want to jinx things that I call - and I hate eating crow. But short of national catastrophe, Hillary dying or being too sick to continue, or the GOP finding a way to throw her in jail, she'll win.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
It wouldn't be the first time I've eaten crow - if you add enough Tabasco, it's not so bad. Having a good beer to wash it down sometimes makes you forget that it's crow. If you drink enough beer. :beer:

I really don't like calling things ahead of time - I don't want to jinx things that I call - and I hate eating crow. But short of national catastrophe, Hillary dying or being too sick to continue, or the GOP finding a way to throw her in jail, she'll win.
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I think you mean The Nectar of the Gods.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
When did blacks start voting strongly Democratic? See the graph below? It was Goldwater, when during his campaign he said he opposed the Civil Rights Act. Nixon followed up with his "Southern Strategy" to attract the "negrophobes". After those two events, why would blacks ever trust the GOP again?

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Notice that drop in blacks voting Democrat starting in 2000.
 
RetiredUSN said:
If the deep south is so racist, then why are 90% of the problems occurring in the north, east, and midwest?
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90% of the problems???? If you don't think that the Deep South is still racist, then 'splain why it is that Mississippi waited until 2013 - yes, three years ago - to ratify the Thirteenth Amendment banning slavery.

And when it comes to the "90% of the problems", remember Ferguson, MO? Baton Rouge? And then there's the NC voter-suppression law that the federal appeals court just struck down:

North Carolina’s law was enacted in 2013 following the controversial US Supreme Court ruling that invalidated part of the Voting Rights Act. That policy, passed in the 1960s, provided a reversal of Jim Crow–era voter suppression laws.

In a blatant admission of the motivation behind North Carolina’s law, the state actually argued that black voters had "too much" voter accessibility. The court recognized this in its decision, ruling in favor of the North Carolina NAACP, which brought the case forward:

Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise.

In its argument, the state also made its case against early voting by stating that "[c]ounties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic."

From CNN, about the same ruling:

The court found that the North Carolina legislature enacted the provisions after it gathered data on the use, by race, of certain voting practices.
The provisions "target African-Americans with almost surgical precision" and "impose cures for problems that did not exist," the judges wrote.

This isn't to say that there isn't racism outside the Deep South...but the Deep South is where it's strongest and most deeply entrenched.
 
American said:
Notice that drop in blacks voting Democrat starting in 2000.
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And the sharp rise in 2008 and 2012...and don't go saying they were voting for Obama because he's black...because you also know that the only black in the 2016 race (Herman Cain) got very, very few black votes indeed.
 
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