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Trump Admits He Never Saw Video of US Payment to Iran

So.

Why did Obama agree to settle this 30 year-old claim a day after Iran agreed to return the hostages and accept the nuclear agreement? Just bad timing? :roll:

Sometimes I wonder just how much our fellow Forum anti-Trump pundits actually understand about international diplomacy. :coffeepap:

why is this just being brought up now? payiing ransom for the first time in history for hostages is ahuge deal, this was arranged in january and was made public? because its a lie, trump watched some conspiracy video (like what was just posted), just like the video trump saw about muslims applauding 9/11 in new jersey. and now his loyal followers are playing clean up AGAIN

its sad
 
He's apologizing because he confused the videos.

There IS a video provided by some middle east group purporting to show a pallet of money and a plane that allegedly delivered it. Or did you miss Excon's post?



NO!



Not "playing clean-up." The man did what people like you have been demanding he do for a while and admitted he made a mistake.

So what do you do? Turn it into a negative...he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't; that's true bias.

yeah :roll: hes damned when admits hes a liar and hes damned when he pretends hes not liar.... maybe he should just stop lying?
 
What are the consequences of roundly criticizing a move that walks, looks and quacks like a duck?

so your saying the facts dont matter as long as it "feels" true? your a true republican
 
so your saying the facts dont matter as long as it "feels" true? your a true republican

It is the responsibility of every single American to hold our leaders' feet to the fire. To question. To criticize.

Perception is reality. You would do well to remember that.
 
It is the responsibility of every single American to hold our leaders' feet to the fire. To question. To criticize.

Perception is reality. You would do well to remember that.

what does that even mean? how is coming up with lie after lie criticizing anyone?

the only people trumppettes are criticizing is the illuminati
 
what does that even mean? how is coming up with lie after lie criticizing anyone?

the only people trumppettes are criticizing is the illuminati

It is not a lie to misinterpret a video. It is not a lie to criticize the POTUS for his actions re the perception that we paid a ransom to kidnappers.

Next?
 
It is not a lie to misinterpret a video. It is not a lie to criticize the POTUS for his actions re the perception that we paid a ransom to kidnappers.

Next?

theres only two situations that I can see, the first trump knew it was lie and just doesn't care, or he is so stupid that he didn't know paying for hostages would be a big deal, and that if it were true more people would be talking about it than just alex jones and david duke.

which would you prefer?
 
theres only two situations that I can see, the first trump knew it was lie and just doesn't care, or he is so stupid that he didn't know paying for hostages would be a big deal, and that if it were true more people would be talking about it than just alex jones and david duke.

which would you prefer?
1. You clearly show you do not pay attention to the previously information provided.
2. You also clearly show you ignore reality for your own biased version of make believe.

Again.

From January of this year.

Iran general: US paid Tehran $1.7 billion to release ‘spies’
US denies claim by Basij officer that settlement of suit dating to 1979 Islamic revolution bought return of 4 US prisoners


An Iranian general this week claimed that the $400 million debt and $1.3 billion in interest the US has agreed to pay Iran from a pre-revolution international legal tribunal, was actually a ransom to secure the release of dual citizens recently freed by Iran as part of a prisoner swap.

[...]

Iran general: US paid Tehran $1.7 billion to release 'spies' | The Times of Israel
 
1. You clearly show you do not pay attention to the previously information provided.
2. You also clearly show you ignore reality for your own biased version of make believe.

Again.


im not going to entertain this conspiracy theory I also wont talk about how jet fuel can't melt steel beams
 
im not going to entertain this conspiracy theory I also wont talk about how jet fuel can't melt steel beams

Your reply is irrelevant to what you quoted.
 
Trump is a douche.
 
Your reply is irrelevant to what you quoted.

lets see.... you posted a one-off quote from an iranian general, basically saying that this money wasn't for the iran deal, but it was about spies, even the fact that they were spies is a claim that the US denies, this was reported in the times of israel. Why because you wont find CNN, FOX, or anybody else reporting on it even though its been public information for the past 8 months, you wont find anything about it until trump said it. Meaning its a conspiracy theory, that all the worlds media (including FOX) and both democrats and republicans have to be in on, for it to be true.

anyway I dont know why we're talking about this, when shapeshifting lizard people are the ones we should really be worried about
 
lets see.... you posted a one-off quote from an iranian general, basically saying that this money wasn't for the iran deal, but it was about spies, even the fact that they were spies is a claim that the US denies, this was reported in the times of israel. Why because you wont find CNN, FOX, or anybody else reporting on it even though its been public information for the past 8 months, you wont find anything about it until trump said it. Meaning its a conspiracy theory, that all the worlds media (including FOX) and both democrats and republicans have to be in on, for it to be true.
1. You are the one that said no one was talking about it.
That report shows you to be wrong.
2. As already pointed out just because we were obligated to return it, yet hadn't in all those years, doesn't mean we didn't use it as ransom as reported.
Especially with Iran claiming it was part of the exchange.


anyway I dont know why we're talking about this, when shapeshifting lizard people are the ones we should really be worried about
Yes, I am sure you would choose to believe something like that.
 
1. You are the one that said no one was talking about it.
That report shows you to be wrong.
2. As already pointed out just because we were obligated to return it, yet hadn't in all those years, doesn't mean we didn't use it as ransom as reported.
Especially with Iran claiming it was part of the exchange.

Yes, I am sure you would choose to believe something like that.

your twisting facts to suit your theories, your conspiracy theory that obama paid ransom for the first time in history even though theyve been in jail for years, also the theory that they are spies, which is not a fact its a theory. A conspiracy theory

just because ya know mooslims and obama something something aliens....
 
...And every day you're there to post whatever it is you think is his most recent gaffe. :roll:

So this time he does what he is supposed to do and fess up. Your reaction? Make it a negative.

Pretty normal reaction though, this hypocritical holier-than-thou judgmental viewpoint most of us display.

It is the root cause of political dishonesty, the very reason why seekers of public office have to make canned speeches vetted every-which-way-from-Sunday to make sure they offend the fewest people by focusing on platitudes and the Party line.

I suppose if he had remained silent or stuck to his guns you'd be even more tickled pink?

Whatever. :coffeepap:

If you don't get points for being cleared of any wrongdoing and criminal acts by several GOP investigations, and an FBI investigation why should you get one for coming clean about lying?
 
theres only two situations that I can see, the first trump knew it was lie and just doesn't care, or he is so stupid that he didn't know paying for hostages would be a big deal, and that if it were true more people would be talking about it than just alex jones and david duke.

which would you prefer?

I have NO idea what you're talking about.
 
Turns out that Trump told a huge lie when he talked about the video describing the plane carrying a cash transfer to Iran. Why? Because the video never existed. Planned Parenthood is having a chuckle over that one too. Well, at least to Trump's credit, he didn't fabricate any video, but he did fabricate the lie.

Every day, Donald Trump sticks his foot even further into his own mouth. I am surprised he hasn't choked to death by now. LOL.

Article is here.



Really ??!!

Obama pays a 400 million dollar ransom to the leading State sponsor of terror, then lies about it and THIS is news worthy?
 
Really ??!!

Obama pays a 400 million dollar ransom to the leading State sponsor of terror, then lies about it and THIS is news worthy?

Diversion, redirection.

It's the same as someone who yells 'Look over there! Look how awful!', as he picks you pocket.

Seems to be a recurring behavior of this president, his administration, and Democrats in general. Sometimes they do this playing the race card.
 
...And every day you're there to post whatever it is you think is his most recent gaffe. :roll:

So this time he does what he is supposed to do and fess up. Your reaction? Make it a negative.

Pretty normal reaction though, this hypocritical holier-than-thou judgmental viewpoint most of us display.

It is the root cause of political dishonesty, the very reason why seekers of public office have to make canned speeches vetted every-which-way-from-Sunday to make sure they offend the fewest people by focusing on platitudes and the Party line.

I suppose if he had remained silent or stuck to his guns you'd be even more tickled pink?

Whatever. :coffeepap:



And that's a problem because?

Every day Trump unloads more and more lies, like he saw American Muslims dancing in the street after 911. Now he says h actually saw real money being handed to Iran.
The guys so ****ed up he doesn't even know how money transfers internationally.

With this stupid prick telling whoppers on a daily basis, America can only benefit by exposing him.

Or do you have a problem with that? Are you so insecure with your choice that you can't handle criticism? Or are his faults so many and glaring you know he'll be dog **** if it all comes out.

I'm a big fan of how he calls up newspapers and tv stations pretending to be someone else to brag about himself. You have a real "winner" there
 
Really ??!!

Obama pays a 400 million dollar ransom to the leading State sponsor of terror, then lies about it and THIS is news worthy?

As a matter of fact, YES!

As a retired journalist I can assure you that Trump actually admitting a lie is 'lead to show."

What Obama did a year ago is what is called "old news" so it wouldn't even rate. Trump has deliberately put himself in the headlines, like an addict chasing a hit, he is the Republican nominee for president, making what HE says important than what happened months ago. Further, Trump lied and now admits it.

Just a short lesson in Journalistic functions and ethics
 
your twisting facts to suit your theories, your conspiracy theory that obama paid ransom for the first time in history even though theyve been in jail for years, also the theory that they are spies, which is not a fact its a theory. A conspiracy theory

just because ya know mooslims and obama something something aliens....
Your reply is again, stupid. It also seems to have escaped you in your desire to call something a conspiracy the, information already provided which shows your claim to be nothing more than the results of an irrational convoluted thought process.



The video exists showing the money, planes and the hostages.

We know Iran claimed the money was in exchange for the hostages.
We know a hostage said they could not leave unless the other plane got there.
We know the administration's lame excuse that they couldn't send the money any other way is bs.

And you want to absurdly try and dismiss the factual information as a conspiracy theory? Hilarious.




Paying Ransom to Iran
Lee Smith, The Weekly Standard

" . . . Let's look at the details. Administration spokesmen argue that the $400 million paid out was Tehran's money to begin with. But that's not true. The $400 million was a payment received from the shah of Iran for a weapons deal with Washington that was never consummated because he was toppled by the Islamic revolution in 1979. Thus Washington held the money. Later, American victims of Iranian terrorism won judgments against the Islamic Republic in U.S. courts, and the Clinton administration, as a Newsweek article reported in January, promised that the settlements would be paid out of the $400 million. But the Clinton White House never reimbursed the Treasury Department, nor did the Bush administration. The $400 million that Obama aides say belongs to Iran should have long ago been distributed to Iran's American victims and their families. Instead, it was U.S. taxpayers who compensated the victims of Iranian terror. And then we paid $400 million a second time, in January, to the Iranians themselves. The $1.3 billion of interest that the United States is supposed to have owed the Iranians is simply a fiction the Obama administration contrived to sweeten the pot, since the United States was under no legal obligation to pay Iran money that was no longer Iran's. Yes, it was ransom, billed to the U.S. taxpayer. . . ."
 
Every day Trump unloads more and more lies, like he saw American Muslims dancing in the street after 911.
There was dancing afterwords. This is supported by other reports.
That in no way makes what he said a lie.
The only issue in regards to what he said was the number seen. I believe he said "thousands". Which has never been disproved.


Now he says h actually saw real money being handed to Iran.
Wrong.
What he said he saw was it being unloaded, he then later corrected that misspeak and said he did not see it being unloaded.
That in no way doesn't mean he did not see the video or that he lied.

The video showed two planes, the hostages and what is supposedly the money on a pallet.
That is not a lie, but misspeaking of what he recalled it showing. Most people can understand the difference, why can't you?


The money was given to Iran. It was also obviously given in exchange for the hostages.



With this stupid prick telling whoppers on a daily basis,
Calling someone a stupid prick just relegates your opinion to the dust heap, and as can be seen by what you have spewed forth, that is where it belongs.
 
...And every day you're there to post whatever it is you think is his most recent gaffe. :roll:

So this time he does what he is supposed to do and fess up. Your reaction? Make it a negative.

Pretty normal reaction though, this hypocritical holier-than-thou judgmental viewpoint most of us display.

It is the root cause of political dishonesty, the very reason why seekers of public office have to make canned speeches vetted every-which-way-from-Sunday to make sure they offend the fewest people by focusing on platitudes and the Party line.

I suppose if he had remained silent or stuck to his guns you'd be even more tickled pink?

Whatever. :coffeepap:

Trump flat out lied and because he admitted lying you want to credit him for telling that truth. You sure this is the angle you want to take?
 
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Apparently folks are only into generalization of what was said and not the specifics.



No. Captain Adverse already pointed out the specifics.

Here is the English language version of the supposed video.
You can see the supposed money used in the swap @ 11:24.

@ 11:45 the narrator says 400 million cash was delivered by the plane.







Oh lordy, another conspiracy theory the right has drummed up. Someone wake up James O'Queef to make some more lying videos to spam political forums with.
 
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