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Is Trump undermining US democracy?

Black Panthers milling around the polls with billy clubs to intimidate voters undermines the democratic process. A demagogue making melodramatic predictions over a podcast does not.
 
Lutherf said:
He hasn't questioned the legitimacy of the electoral process. He has questioned whether two parties with virtually unlimited control over the electoral process have undermined the democratic process.

There is a distinct possibility that the GOP will never recover from this fiasco and that the Democrats will be the only viable party left. Since their platform is essentially one of soft socialism that leads to the likelihood that Federalism will be replaced with Nationalism. When you combine Socialism with Nationalism you end up with the Soviet Union or Cuba.
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There is no doubt in my mind of the Democrats the people of this country are too dangerous not to be grouped and controlled by their leaders. Is that what we want?
It is the direction we are going in.
 
danarhea said:
But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.
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It is possible and the nervousness and level of contempt and being under attack from domestic forces breaking the Constitution is much as bad as I know of. The Constitution is something that people think worth defending by force. The liberals have pushed on the civil rights/pc and social programs policies without taking a very large segment of society along. These people now are angry and getting viciously so as the overshoot goes relentlessly on.
So yes. Violence is possible. And it could be very nasty as it would be unclear who was holding the legitimate claim.
 
Lutherf said:
He hasn't questioned the legitimacy of the electoral process. He has questioned whether two parties with virtually unlimited control over the electoral process have undermined the democratic process.

There is a distinct possibility that the GOP will never recover from this fiasco and that the Democrats will be the only viable party left. Since their platform is essentially one of soft socialism that leads to the likelihood that Federalism will be replaced with Nationalism. When you combine Socialism with Nationalism you end up with the Soviet Union or Cuba.
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Looks like we do have a choice then. Between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. LOL.
 
danarhea said:
But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.
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He's preparing his excuse if he loses the election with all this talk of "rigging" the election for Hillary. The Donald never loses, don'tcha know, unless somebody cheated and was unfair to him.
 
DiAnna said:
He's preparing his excuse if he loses the election with all this talk of "rigging" the election for Hillary. The Donald never loses, don'tcha know, unless somebody cheated and was unfair to him.
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The world must be a very scary place for Donald Trump. LOL.
 
danarhea said:
But to me, the scariest part of this article is the following:

"In a podcast last week, long-time Trump advisor Roger Stone said that if the election results in November don't match opinion polls, the Republican nominee should challenge the validity of the election and warned that the unrest could end in a "bloodbath"

A bloodbath? I don't want to go all Godwin over this, but if the shoe fits.....................

Article is here.
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A blood bath? Really? Puleeze.
 
SMTA said:
He also undermines common decency, civility, respect for others, personal control, and acts like the 9 year old psychotic childish little prick that he truly is - **** him.
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Yea, that especially the last part.
 
danarhea said:
I'm not the one who said it. You will need to talk to the Trump campaign.
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Doesn't make a diff who said it. It's ridiculous.

And, in fact, it doesn't appear HE said it. Although the word "bloodbath" stands alone and in quotes, here's what the article goes on to quote:

"If there's voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate," he said. "The election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government."
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False headline. Media misrepresentation. Our media can no longer be trusted, and we'd better get used to it.
 
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MaggieD said:
Doesn't make a diff who said it. It's ridiculous.

And, in fact, it doesn't appear HE said it. Although the word "bloodbath" stands alone and in quotes, here's what the article goes on to quote:



False headline. Media misrepresentation. Our media can no longer be trusted, and we'd better get used to it.
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Media misrepresentation, my ass!!

Oh yes, Trump's adviser DID say that, which is why it made a headline. Listen at 3:25 in the recording.

Jeez, for the life of me I do not understand how some people continue to defend these psychopaths.

 
danarhea said:
Media misrepresentation, my ass!!

Oh yes, Trump's adviser DID say that, which is why it made a headline. Listen at 3:25 in the recording.

Jeez, for the life of me I do not understand how some people continue to defend these psychopaths.

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I take that back. It isn't a media misrepresentation alone, it's the media AND Dan misrepresenting a nonstory. First, you link us to a story that calls Roger Stone Trump's long-standing political advisor. A story that fails to mention one significant point:

He was fired from the Trump campaign a year ago.

Your OP link does not clearly include the quote apparently cited in this audio. I say apparently because, frankly, I barely trust the media. And further, your whole premise is that this jamoke is Trump's political advisor. Can you say, "He was fired by Trump over a year ago?" Your OP is as misleading as can be. He was FIRED. His statement regarding a bloodbath is ridiculous.

Roger Stone says he quit, Trump camp says it fired him - CNNPolitics.com
 
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