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Chicago police release video related to shooting of unarmed man

ecofarm said:
I don't live in Chicago, makes no difference to me. Police brutality and injustice against blacks does affect me, even as a white man.

Kids being hit in a drive-by is not anywhere near as harmful to society as police injustice.
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14 kids under the age of 8 have been killed as a result of gun violence, This year, I really refuse to believe that it "makes no difference to you"

my source:http://apps.chicagotribune.com/news/local/young_victims/
 
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ecofarm said:
I don't live in Chicago, makes no difference to me. Police brutality and injustice against blacks does affect me, even as a white man.

Kids being hit in a drive-by is not anywhere near as harmful to society as police injustice.
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This might be the dumbest post I ever read............. It is truly sad because I know you believe it.
 
Among other things, one of the mistakes the cops made is that when they shot at the car there was another police vehicle approaching up the street. Basically, they shot at their own guys.

I have no idea which cops from which unit are the ones who actually shot the kid but there is a distinct possibility that the cops in one of the units believed the suspect was shooting at them because they were receiving fire from behind the suspect vehicle.

Nothing I've see with this incident comes close to the total cluster**** with the McDonald shooting but there was definitely poor judgement and poor tactics that contributed to this incident.

BTW, here's a compilation video that gives some decent perspective.

 
ecofarm said:
Yeah, yeah, sure, "Countryboy". Blacks are treated fairly and equally by law enforcement!
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I never said that either. Though it's probably true in the vast majority of cases. But whites are shot by police far more than blacks. Furthermore, a white cop is 18 times more likely to be shot by an armed black man, than an unarmed black man is, to be shot by police. I realize that doesn't jibe with the spoon fed talking points you are regurgitating, but reality is a bitch sometimes. :shrug:
 
ecofarm said:
People are not claiming institutional racism, that being explicit racism condoned by an institution. People are claiming systemic racism, which is a fact. Systemic racism explains why this happens 1000x more to blacks than whites.
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Your wrong about that. It is far more likely to happen to someone white rhan black

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RetiredUSN said:
WTF did you just type? ..........................gang shootings are a hell of a lot more frequent, and they happen in every city in America. Many many innocent people are killed while it goes on.

People lock themselves in their houses because of gangs.

Police injustice is everywhere as you say?

Right Bro.........got it!
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Does gangs shooting each other in Chicago affect you? It doesn't affect me. Police injustice, however, harms all of us.
 
trouble13 said:
Your wrong about that. It is far more likely to happen to someone white rhan black

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Not per capita. Please, let's be intellectually honest.
 
countryboy said:
I never said that either. Though it's probably true in the vast majority of cases. But whites are shot by police far more than blacks. Furthermore, a white cop is 18 times more likely to be shot by an armed black man, than an unarmed black man is, to be shot by police. I realize that doesn't jibe with the spoon fed talking points you are regurgitating, but reality is a bitch sometimes. :shrug:
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That's a stupid stat argument. Police regularly put themselves in dangerous situations in dealing with violent criminals. Are we to believe that blacks are in the same situation when dealing with police? Blacks dealing with cops is like cops dealing with violent criminals? If that's your claim, you should be a passionate BLM supporter. If that's not your claim, then you're comparing apples and oranges.
 
ecofarm said:
Does gangs shooting each other in Chicago affect you? It doesn't affect me. Police injustice, however, harms all of us.
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So.....in your own selfish little mind, you think that a high volume of shootings in a far away city is more acceptable because it doesn't affect you?

At the same time, you see a few bad situations with cops in far away places, and all of a sudden it's a mass injustice by the police?

You could run your head through a stump grinder and come out making more sense.
 
RetiredUSN said:
This might be the dumbest post I ever read............. It is truly sad because I know you believe it.
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Injustice by our institutions is far more harmful to society than crime between gang members. This should be obvious. You only think the statement is dumb because you have no sociological understanding.
 
RetiredUSN said:
So.....in your own selfish little mind, you think that a high volume of shootings in a far away city is more acceptable because it doesn't affect you?
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Yes, a localized problem is not as harmful to society as one that exists throughout our police system.

At the same time, you see a few bad situations with cops in far away places, and all of a sudden it's a mass injustice by the police?
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No, I don't use anecdotal evidence. I use statistics.

You could run your head through a stump grinder and come out making more sense.
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Why are you so upset that police injustice is a greater problem for society? Blacks gotta be the big problem, huh?
 
ecofarm said:
Injustice by our institutions is far more harmful to society than crime between gang members. This should be obvious. You only think the statement is dumb because you have no sociological understanding.
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Gangs do not restrict their deeds to other gangs.

They prey on the entire community 24/7/365.

If you had the slightest clue as to what it is like on the streets, you would shut up about it.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Gangs do not restrict their deeds to other gangs.

They prey on the entire community 24/7/365.
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They don't prey on me. But police injustice affects my life.

If you had the slightest clue as to what it is like on the streets, you would shut up about it.
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Oh, spare me, OG.

You are so committed to "blacks are the problem", as if gangs are only blacks.
 
ecofarm said:
Not per capita. Please, let's be intellectually honest.
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I am being honest. Stastically its disporportionately far more likely for the victim to be white than black. I dont dispute that the police need to tone it down but they are not singling out blacks. They are shooting everybody

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trouble13 said:
I am being honest. Stastically its disporportionately far more likely for the victim to be white than black. I dont dispute that the police need to tone it down but they are not singling out blacks. They are shooting everybody

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Too ridiculous. Do you understand the term "per capita"? The country is only 13% blacks, so of course in raw numbers they are shot less. That does not excuse the per capita stats.
 
ecofarm said:
It doesn't affect my life. Police injustice affects everyone.
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You have repeatedly said that police injustice is affecting everyone. That is a flat out BS comment, and you fail to provide any proof on the matter of police injustice being widespread.

I feel totally safe around the police, and my minority (close) friends do also.
 
RetiredUSN said:
You have repeatedly said that police injustice is affecting everyone. That is a flat out BS comment, and you fail to provide any proof on the matter of police injustice being widespread.
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So police injustice is not a problem that affects everyone? Wow, that's sociologically ignorant as hell.

I feel totally safe around the police, and my minority (close) friends do also.
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Police don't bother me, but they are creating problems throughout America and for everyone with their unprofessional behavior and lack of accountability. That this behavior is overwhelming directed at black people makes the problem even worse.
 
ecofarm said:
Too ridiculous. Do you understand the term "per capita"? The country is only 13% blacks, so of course in raw numbers they are shot less. That does not excuse the per capita stats.
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Maybe they behave differently than other races in certain urban areas? Maybe the "gangsta" lifestyle has a little to do with it? Maybe challenging the police, and being combative isn't such a good idea? Maybe........ because the stops involve repeat violent offenders? Maybe because they are known gang members?
 
RetiredUSN said:
Maybe they behave differently than other races in certain urban areas? Maybe the "gangsta" lifestyle has a little to do with it? Maybe challenging the police, and being combative isn't such a good idea? Maybe........ because the stops involve repeat violent offenders? Maybe because they are known gang members?
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That's only black people? Why do you frame gangs as a black problem? Is your intent to blame blacks? Looks like it.
 
ecofarm said:
Too ridiculous. Do you understand the term "per capita"? The country is only 13% blacks, so of course in raw numbers they are shot less. That does not excuse the per capita stats.
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Wow dude you need to get a grip. I understand per capita and I also understand that are blacks are killed disproportionately less than whites and Hispanics.


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ecofarm said:
That's a stupid stat argument. Police regularly put themselves in dangerous situations in dealing with violent criminals. Are we to believe that blacks are in the same situation when dealing with police? Blacks dealing with cops is like cops dealing with violent criminals? If that's your claim, you should be a passionate BLM supporter. If that's not your claim, then you're comparing apples and oranges.
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Either way, your claim that this happens to blacks "1000×" more, is completely bogus. But you already knew that.

And no, I'm not a BLM supporter. I don't support racist organizations.
 
ecofarm said:
That's only black people? Why do you frame gangs as a black problem? Is your intent to blame blacks? Looks like it.
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I knew this was coming.......you deflect after stating yourself that blacks are the victims.

You are not just ignorant on the issue, you are a phoney.
 
RetiredUSN said:
I knew this was coming.......you deflect after stating yourself that blacks are the victims.

You are not just ignorant on the issue, you are a phoney.
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Yeah, yeah, blacks are the problem. Police injustice is fine and is not a threat to blacks as a group or the country as a whole. Blacks aren't victims of racism. All those unarmed blacks deserve to be shot. Oh, and gangs are a black problem. Let's not forget that.

Pathetic.
 
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