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Khizr Khan responds to the latest from Trump: ‘Typical of a person without a soul’

Re: Khizr Khan responds to the latest from Trump: ‘Typical of a person without a soul

bubbabgone said:
Both me and the media certainly do know that.
But only one of us act as though they know it.
Unfortunately it's the one with no influence or wherewithal to present background information to a broad audience.
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Sorry but not getting your point.
 
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Gina said:
To the bolded, emphatically, I agree. Trump has not apologize once for any of the vile attacks he's made. That makes him less of a man in my eyes. Which I'm sure doesn't matter to anyone, but I want to say it.


Let us all pray we don't hand him anything but his walking papers.
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I agree, and yes, prayer.

What astonishes me is how many Americans are excusing his behavior echoing the Obamabots and the "what about Bush" excuse. I always thought the Republican party was all about honoring veterans and supporting the military. I recall how bat**** crazy they went over Clinton and her visit with the relatives of those slain in Benghazi; a year or more of public hearings. But, now you can slag the mother of a fallen soldier, and the Trumpites cheer.

This is about, likely the MOST hypocritical thing I have ever seen in politics.

Meanwhile our headline is the fact our prime minister attended the Pride Parade yesterday. I just know Trudeau and Trump will be great pals.
 
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Gina said:
To the bolded, emphatically, I agree. Trump has not apologize once for any of the vile attacks he's made. That makes him less of a man in my eyes. Which I'm sure doesn't matter to anyone, but I want to say it.


Let us all pray we don't hand him anything but his walking papers.
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I have a feeling Trump hasn't apologized for anything in his life. Whether it was forgetting to put the toilet seat down or to refill the gas tank, I just can't see that guy taking personal responsibility for anything at all. His supporters see apologizing as a failing so that quality will sit well with them.
 
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Lutherf said:
As you know, I'm no fan of Trump but with much of the major media in the tank for Hillary the guy isn't going to get a fair shake no matter what he says.

The art of political speech is to be able to split a hair and then split it again when asked to clarify. Trump doesn't do that. He figures that his base isn't the least bit interested in split hairs and he's probably right. He also figures that the more polarization there is in the campaign the more independents there will be and that the gap will favor him come November. He wants to highlight the special interest pandering that Hillary has based her campaign on and this kerfuffle, whether perceived positively or negatively, does that.
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I beg to differ. The Canadian media, left of me, have been reporting that Trump gets almost four times as much exposure as Clinton. He coasted through the primaries on the back of $3 billion in free publicity. In fact, a leading political scientist in Canada says Trump is a "media phenomenon"
pointing the fact he's tied or winning and has no policy whatsoever.

Meanwhile the surveys say Bernie was tied with Hilary in amount of media coverage, so the old saw about her getting an easy ride in news coverage doesn't wash. I agree though the op-ed people are clearly in her camp. This is where we see if the American public knows the difference, but hey, in the end you're screwed no matter who wins.
 
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JANFU said:
Politicians use the Military, Veterans, Gold Star Parent(s), families of slain Police Officers all the time.
You know that as well as I.
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bubbabgone said:
Both me and the media certainly do know that.
But only one of us act as though they know it.
Unfortunately it's the one with no influence or wherewithal to present background information to a broad audience.
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JANFU said:
Sorry but not getting your point.
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That was the sequence.

The point was that you and I know that those demographic groups are used by politicians.
Nothing unusual there.
But the media knows it as well.
The problem is that, for their own purposes, the media decides which deserves in-depth coverage.
For example, I saw that Pat Smith's angry bit at the Republican Convention got 1/50th the coverage of the Khan parents' tirade at the Democrat convention.
In addition, if you were in journalism would it have occurred to you that, hey, let's explore the Khans' background ... might be interesting.
 
Re: Khizr Khan responds to the latest from Trump: ‘Typical of a person without a soul

bubbabgone said:
That was the sequence.

The point was that you and I know that those demographic groups are used by politicians.
Nothing unusual there.
But the media knows it as well.
The problem is that, for their own purposes, the media decides which deserves in-depth coverage.
For example, I saw that Pat Smith's angry bit at the Republican Convention got 1/50th the coverage of the Khan parents' tirade at the Democrat convention.
In addition, if you were in journalism would it have occurred to you that, hey, let's explore the Khans' background ... might be interesting.
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Thank you
 
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Cryptic said:
I seriously doubt that Hillary manipulated them into doing anything.
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Right.

And the DNC wasn't conspiring to rig the primary elections to squash Sanders so Queen Hillary could get the nomination.



What amazes me, however, is that Trump wisely backed down from a public fight with the Pope as he saw that the Pope's "Bully Pulpit" was yuge and comes with limitless airtime. Win or lose, Trump would ulitimately lose any argument with the Pope.
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Trump didn't back down from the Pope fight. The Pope took a shot at Trump, Trump fired back and the Pope shut up. Trump won.


Yet, Trump takes the bait with the Khans "hook, line and sinker".
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And people, at least ones with brains, are seeing past the bait and see a poor man who lost his son who's being used by political ****sticks who work for Hillary.
 
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Cryptic said:
My guess is that Hillary's people want them to quit while they are a head. They hit Trump hard at the convention, then Trump's mouth enabled them to hit him hard two more times. Now, its time to walk away and let the silence be defeaning.
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I think so, too. It's strategy.




I seriously doubt that Hillary manipulated them into doing anything. Rather, Trump's poorly worded Moslem rants hit him hard and he concluded that Trump was slandering his community. His interests to create a good impression of his community then coincided with Hillary's interests in attacking Trump. Sure, Hillary's people vetted him, determined that he was articulate, and then fine tuned his presentation, but Khan's emotions and willingness to be there are genuine.
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Khan wants Hillary to win. They were there campaigning for Hillary.




What amazes me, however, is that Trump wisely backed down from a public fight with the Pope as he saw that the Pope's "Bully Pulpit" was yuge and comes with limitless airtime. Win or lose, Trump would ulitimately lose any argument with the Pope. Yet, Trump takes the bait with the Khans "hook, line and sinker".
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Mind you, Trump's referral to the Vatican wall spoke volumes.
But I suspect the reason why Trump backed down from the Pope has something more to do with religion. Though they don't belong in the same denomination.....the Pope is a Christian brother.

If Trump didn't back down, I doubt the Pope would've gone on in a public squabble with Trump.
Most likely he would've just left it at that.
 
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Roadvirus said:
Right.
And the DNC wasn't conspiring to rig the primary elections to squash Sanders so Queen Hillary could get the nomination.
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Apples and oranges. The DNC needed to manipulate that so as to ensure the desired result. They did not need to manipulate the Khan family as they were already willing to make a statement. Rather, all the DNC needed to do was vet him and assist him with the presentation. Khan was their dream come true: a moslem who had sacrificed for the nation and who is also articulate, and who also has no skeletons in the closet (my bet is that a discrete, high dollar, and very good PI company thoroughly checked him, his wife and his relatives out)

Roadvirus said:
Trump didn't back down from the Pope fight. The Pope took a shot at Trump, Trump fired back and the Pope shut up. Trump won.
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Trumps last words on the Pope dispute were "I don't like fighting with the Pope". Then Trump shut up. Basically Trump, or his advisors, saw that the Pope's pulpit was huge, that nobody knew where an argument was going to lead , that millions of Catholic voters expect the Pope to be at least nominally respected by a US president, and most importantly..... the Pope does not need to run for election.

In short, Trump was going to ultimately lose an argument with the Pope (even if he "won" in the short term). That is why Trump quit.

tosca1 said:
If Trump didn't back down, I doubt the Pope would've gone on in a public squabble with Trump.
Most likely he would've just left it at that.
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Possibly, as the Pope, unlike Trump, listens to his advisors. Even still, the Pope has also shown a tendency to speak before thinking. It might be hard to predict where an argument between the two of them would go. In any such argument, Trump had far more to lose than the Pope did.
tosca1 said:
Khan wants Hillary to win. They were there campaigning for Hillary.
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That does not mean that Khan was manipulated though.
 
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Fletch said:
He didn't make an assumption, he asked a question.
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Drumpf was begging the question, a logical/rhetorical fallacy where a pretense, an assumption was made:

"I saw him," Trump said of the speech. "He was very emotional and probably looked like a nice guy to me. His wife … if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me"


It was the assumption that she was a repressed Muslim female not allowed to speak her mind, it was racial stereotyping.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Drumpf was begging the question, a logical/rhetorical fallacy where a pretense, an assumption was made:

"I saw him," Trump said of the speech. "He was very emotional and probably looked like a nice guy to me. His wife … if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me"


It was the assumption that she was a repressed Muslim female not allowed to speak her mind, it was racial stereotyping.
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Any argument you had to make was negated by the very first word. then further you mistake Islam for a race and tie it all up with the most inane race card play we've seen in ages (and that's saying something).
 
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clownboy said:
Any argument you had to make was negated by the very first word. then further you mistake Islam for a race and tie it all up with the most inane race card play we've seen in ages (and that's saying something).
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Almost everyone, except of course you, understands that racism is a term describing discrimination based on ethnicity, color, national origin and religion.


Do we really have to go over this all again?

And my use of of Trump's ancestors spelling.....is a reminder that even his family were immigrants......whose origin was discriminated against in US history. The irony escapes you....and him.
 
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