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Unemployment rate (U-3) rises 0.2% to 4.9%

The topic is the unemployment rate rising. The reason for that rise is a part of the topic

Why then have you chosen to forgo making a valid argument grounded in economic logic, in favor of partisan ignorance? It's a rhetorical question, as we already know why.
 
Why then have you chosen to forgo making a valid argument grounded in economic logic, in favor of partisan ignorance? It's a rhetorical question, as we already know why.

Because I'm free to express an opinion. Don't like it? Maybe you should take your own advice.
 
Earlier in the century, we mined the ore, made the steel, rolled and formed it, and made cars from it. If we use "value added", we value added every step of the way from mine to showroom, and every step included a profit margin, wages, and taxes. Those jobs paid well. Now, we are taking mark up's starting at the dock from products shipped in from China. We have exported 1/3 of a product's productivity.
That depends on the product. With electronics, most of the work is done in the US -- design, programming, QC, marketing, sales, distribution, customer service, management, legal, insurance. Most of the money stays in the US, especially since retailers net close to half the sale price.

Plus, some nations are no longer anywhere near as competitive as they used to be. Apparently, it's only about 2% cheaper to make many goods in China than to manufacture in the US.

That might not sound like much, but for years Americans have demanded low-cost high-quality goods, and are often more than happy to -- or unable to afford anything other than -- buy their Chinese-made goods at Walmart.

Another issue is that back in the days when we manufactured every last part of a car, the US didn't have much real competition. Manufacturing infrastructure in Japan and Europe were shattered, and China was still struggling to industrialize. Nowadays, if a company doesn't do whatever it can to cut its costs, it could get slaughtered by cut-throat competition, in which case the company will lay off workers.

The alternative for US-based companies is to ramp up worker productivity, mostly by.... implementing automation. This also kills jobs, since you no longer need 1000 people to make your widgets, when you can hire 50 people who supervise a bunch of robots.

So, you can whine about spilled milk, or you can retrain Americans and fill the various skill gaps. What's it gonna be? ;)
 
The topic is the unemployment rate rising. The reason for that rise is a part of the topic
The reason for the rise....is due mainly to those who stopped looking (U6) returning to the job market.....which is a good thing.
 
Because I'm free to express an opinion. Don't like it? Maybe you should take your own advice.

You've already expressed your opinion? Why are you still here given you are incapable of supporting your opinion? Clearly it is just to troll.
 
The reason for the rise....is due mainly to those who stopped looking (U6) returning to the job market.....which is a good thing.

Oh, so now you all are admitting that the unemployment numbers to this point were BS?
 
However, the establishment survey says 287,000 more Americans were employed in June.

But the Household survey (what the official unemployment rate is based on) says only 67,000 more Americans were employed in June.

Employment Situation Summary


Thoughts?

We just need to wait a bit. Usually adjustments are made and many times the amount of jobs created actually decreases.
 
Oh, so now you all are admitting that the unemployment numbers to this point were BS?
Um...hello....it is me writing this.....not "all".

See, this is the problem for folks who are totally ignorant of what the various U-numbers represent. You could on your own accord study them, it really isn't that hurrduur.....or you can make a complete *** out of yourself and go off on conspiracy theories.


The choice is yours.
 
The topic is the unemployment rate rising. The reason for that rise is a part of the topic
lol

Yes, let's stay on topic.

287,000 jobs created, beating estimates by a wide margin.

The very small increase in U3 was expected, because people are rejoining the workforce.

Men have been leaving the workforce since the 1950s. Women started joining in the 1970s. When women stopped joining the workforce around 2000, LFPR started to drop. It's been flat for about 2 years. Somehow, I doubt Obama is responsible for 7 years of LFPR falling before he got into office.

Most labor force measures are back to normal, or close to it. The big stragglers are long-term unemployed and LFPR.

We had what, 97 months straight of job growth? We have one month of 0.2% higher unemployment rate, which is mostly due to people rejoining the workforce. And as noted, LFPR started falling in 2001, due to reasons beyond any President's control.

And no, no one is cooking the books.

Do we really have to have this same exact discussion every month?
 
We just need to wait a bit. Usually adjustments are made and many times the amount of jobs created actually decreases.
IIRC April numbers were revised down, May were revised up. It can go either way.
 
We just need to wait a bit. Usually adjustments are made and many times the amount of jobs created actually decreases.

And many times the numbers are revised upward. In this report, the previous two months were revised +21,000 for April, -27,000 for May, net change over the two months -6,000, which is pretty much indistinguishable from zero in a labor market of 150 million or so.
 
IIRC April numbers were revised down, May were revised up. It can go either way.

It was April up (to 144k) , May down (to 11k).

The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for April was revised from +123,000 to +144,000, and the change for May was revised from +38,000 to +11,000. With these revisions, employment gains in April and May combined were 6,000 less, on net, than previously reported. Over the past 3 months, job gains have averaged 147,000 per month.
 
Gold and silver gained big on the day (after falling after the jobs report came out).

Why?

Obviously, the markets did not buy the jobs report as an indicator of a recovering economy (and Fed rate raises). If they did, there is virtually no way precious metals would spike upwards because the opposite would happen if the Fed were to raise rates - which they might do if the economy looked good...which it doesn't.


BTW, according to the household survey (seasonally adjusted), there have only been 23,000 more Americans employed since February.

Table A-9. Selected employment indicators
 
lol

Yes, let's stay on topic.

287,000 jobs created, beating estimates by a wide margin.

The very small increase in U3 was expected, because people are rejoining the workforce.

Men have been leaving the workforce since the 1950s. Women started joining in the 1970s. When women stopped joining the workforce around 2000, LFPR started to drop. It's been flat for about 2 years. Somehow, I doubt Obama is responsible for 7 years of LFPR falling before he got into office.

Most labor force measures are back to normal, or close to it. The big stragglers are long-term unemployed and LFPR.

We had what, 97 months straight of job growth? We have one month of 0.2% higher unemployment rate, which is mostly due to people rejoining the workforce. And as noted, LFPR started falling in 2001, due to reasons beyond any President's control.

And no, no one is cooking the books.

Do we really have to have this same exact discussion every month?


Well, why wouldn't it be ? The Left has been offering up the same arguments and or excuses in a attempt to mitigate the effects of bad economic data for political purposes for the last 7 years. Even going so far as describing our current economic issues as " the new normal ". I assume the Democrat party's strategy here is to convince as many young people as possible that our current economy is comparable and even better than past economies under different Presidents because anyone who's old enough to have lived through the 70's, 80's and 90's knows better.

Reaching back 60 years or even 20 years to explain away the Labor Participation rate being as low as it is or celebrating " 97 months of straight jobs growth " minus any context needed to qualify that data as good, bad or indifferent is just more of the same.
Unfortunately, those who support Obama seem to be more concerned with perpetuating a political narrative than offering up a thorough and accurate analysis and that means ignoring the plight of tens millions of Americans who have struggled and continue to struggle under Obama's no growth policies.

Gotta say, I've always thought this was exceptionally cruel and destructive. Not to mention if the Democrats can convince a whole generation of people, that have no historical reference that this is how you grow market economies then we're screwed.
 
Well, why wouldn't it be ? The Left has been offering up the same arguments and or excuses in a attempt to mitigate the effects of bad economic data for political purposes for the last 7 years. Even going so far as describing our current economic issues as " the new normal ". I assume the Democrat party's strategy here is to convince as many young people as possible that our current economy is comparable and even better than past economies under different Presidents because anyone who's old enough to have lived through the 70's, 80's and 90's knows better.

Reaching back 60 years or even 20 years to explain away the Labor Participation rate being as low as it is or celebrating " 97 months of straight jobs growth " minus any context needed to qualify that data as good, bad or indifferent is just more of the same.
Unfortunately, those who support Obama seem to be more concerned with perpetuating a political narrative than offering up a thorough and accurate analysis and that means ignoring the plight of tens millions of Americans who have struggled and continue to struggle under Obama's no growth policies.

Gotta say, I've always thought this was exceptionally cruel and destructive. Not to mention if the Democrats can convince a whole generation of people, that have no historical reference that this is how you grow market economies then we're screwed.

Ah, it's the old "labor participation rate" argument...by the SAME guy who I've shown before that the MAJOR reason that the labor participation rate went down is the retirement of the LAST cohort of the baby boomers. They called it the "Baby Boom" because there were a LOT of babies being born...and the boom ended when - wonder of wonders - people started having a lot fewer babies.

And when the Baby Boomers like myself retired, golly gee whiz y'all, there was a smaller percentage of the living population able or willing to work because that significant demographics called Baby Boomers had largely RETIRED.

But since this would mean that Fenton's right-wing echo-chamber information is wrong, well, ha-RUMPH, we can't have that! Why? Because liberals are out to destroy the world, don'tcha know?!? And Obama's a Kenyan Muslim under the control of a "Christian" preacher named Bill Ayers, too!
 
lol

Yes, let's stay on topic.

287,000 jobs created, beating estimates by a wide margin.

Means little...guarantee you it will be revised downwards over the next few months.

Besides, the Household survey - which the U-3 is based on - showed only 67,000 newly employed. And only 23,000 newly employed since February (both seasonally adjusted).

If you are going to give credence to the U-3, then you HAVE to give credence to the survey it is based on or you are a hypocrite on this. And the household survey says June was a lousy month for new employment.

Table A-9. Selected employment indicators

The very small increase in U3 was expected, because people are rejoining the workforce.

Doubtful since the U-3 is based on the household survey and it showed an increase that is insufficient to maintain the U-3 (to my knowledge).

Men have been leaving the workforce since the 1950s. Women started joining in the 1970s. When women stopped joining the workforce around 2000, LFPR started to drop. It's been flat for about 2 years. Somehow, I doubt Obama is responsible for 7 years of LFPR falling before he got into office.

Most labor force measures are back to normal, or close to it. The big stragglers are long-term unemployed and LFPR.

THE most important age group is nowhere near back to 'normal'.

The 25-54 age range (the heart of the economy) employment-population ratio is 77.8...it was over 80 before the Great Recession. And (outside of during that recession), the present ratio is lower now then at any time since 1987..I would hardly call that 'close to back to normal'.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
 
Ah, it's the old "labor participation rate" argument...by the SAME guy who I've shown before that the MAJOR reason that the labor participation rate went down is the retirement of the LAST cohort of the baby boomers.
Well, not quite. Or to be more accurate, not yet.

LFPR is falling for many reasons.

1) Men have gradually been out of the labor force in increasing numbers since the 50s.
2) Women were joining it for decades, and that peaked around 2000.
3) More people are spending more time in school, and this is on the rise
4) More people are staying home to care for family, another increasing factor (mostly, but not exclusively, kids)
5) Cyclical factors, specifically people leaving the workforce because they can't find work
6) Retirement is a factor as well, but that's more recent.

The oldest of the Boomers turned 65 in 2011, and many are working until older ages.

So, we should expect to see LFPR gradually drop as time goes on. For the most part, that will have nothing to do with government policies.
 
Ah, it's the old "labor participation rate" argument...by the SAME guy who I've shown before that the MAJOR reason that the labor participation rate went down is the retirement of the LAST cohort of the baby boomers. They called it the "Baby Boom" because there were a LOT of babies being born...and the boom ended when - wonder of wonders - people started having a lot fewer babies.

And when the Baby Boomers like myself retired, golly gee whiz y'all, there was a smaller percentage of the living population able or willing to work because that significant demographics called Baby Boomers had largely RETIRED.

But since this would mean that Fenton's right-wing echo-chamber information is wrong, well, ha-RUMPH, we can't have that! Why? Because liberals are out to destroy the world, don'tcha know?!? And Obama's a Kenyan Muslim under the control of a "Christian" preacher named Bill Ayers, too!


Lol !!!

I described and criticized the Lefts strategy of mitigating bad economic data for purely political purposes and here you are proving my point

And I thought Libs were supposed to be sympathetic to the struggle of the common man.

Nope, Libs perpetuate narratives that are based on the pretense that he doesn't exist. Like I said, its cruel

Im sure there are some on the Left that would love to point to a vibrant and growing economy as a example of Obama's success, but your ideology doesn't produce growing, healthy market based economies. On the contrary.

It produces dependence, mediocrity, division and stagnation

So you're forced to spread misinformation in the hopes that it will influence the naive because those are the only people that will listen to your marginalizations

Again, anyone with any historical farme of reference who isn't a Obama supporter knows better and can see right through the last 8 years of whats essentially base banana republic style propaganda spread by the Obama administration and their supporters
 
When do refugees become unemployment figures if they are not employed?

Anyone living in the US has an equal chance of being included in the BLS employment surveys. I think around two thousand Syrian refugees have arrived in the US, about five thousand are awaiting resettlement, and another eight thousand are going through a security review. I don't think any of that will have much of an effect on the labor market.

Obama can only cook the books for so long. The unemployment rate inevitably had to rise.

How did he cook up 14.8 full-time, private-sector jobs added since Dec 2009? The unemployment rate has increased in fifteen of the last seventy-eight months. Was the WH kitchen closed during those months?

Obama gave us the worst GDP growth in history

Real GDP grew at 1.76% during the Bush43 administration, which included a housing bubble and a collapse that could have caused a worldwide depression. Under Obummer, the economy has grown at an annual rate of … 1.76%.

Right! It's NEVER his fault...lol!

Ya mean all those jobs that have been added, the drop in the deficit as a percentage of GDP from 10% to 2.4%, the very low inflation rate, the twenty million more Americans with health insurance? Or are all those "cooked" as well?

As others have noted, the drop in LFPR started at the turn of the century and is the result of a variety of demographic factors.

The topic is the unemployment rate rising. The reason for that rise is a part of the topic

As has been noted, U-3 increased because 1,112,000 fewer Americans are reported as not in the labor force.

We just need to wait a bit. Usually adjustments are made and many times the amount of jobs created actually decreases.

The revisions during the post-recession recovery have been largely upward. The direction of revisions typically takes that pattern — when employment is steadily expanding, revisions tend to be upward, and when it's contracting they tend to be downward.

Gold and silver gained big on the day (after falling after the jobs report came out).

The expectation of a Brexit is pushing the price of gold up. The strong jobs report caused it to drop briefly before it recovered. The spot price in New York closed Friday at $1,365.48, up $5.60, or 0.04%. Where's the "big gain"?

>>the markets did not buy the jobs report as an indicator of a recovering economy (and Fed rate raises). If they did, there is virtually no way precious metals would spike upwards

There was no "spike upwards."

>>according to the household survey (seasonally adjusted), there have only been 23,000 more Americans employed since February.

The household survey is not an effective measure of employment, but rather of the unemployment rate. You play this stupid game every month.

The Left has been offering up the same arguments and or excuses in a attempt to mitigate the effects of bad economic data for political purposes for the last 7 years.


What bad economic data?

>>I assume the Democrat party's strategy here is to convince as many young people as possible that our current economy is comparable and even better than past economies under different Presidents because anyone who's old enough to have lived through the 70's, 80's and 90's knows better.

Ye mean like unemployment of more than seven percent from Jan 1981 to Oct 1986? Above eight percent for twenty-six months? Above nine percent for nineteen months? Above ten percent for ten months?

>>celebrating "97 months of straight jobs growth" minus any context

So let's hear yer "context"?

>>Unfortunately, those who support Obama seem to be more concerned with perpetuating a political narrative than offering up a thorough and accurate analysis

I'm all ears. Let's hear yer "thorough and accurate analysis."

>>ignoring the plight of tens millions of Americans who have struggled and continue to struggle under Obama's no growth policies.

Zero details. Worthless, empty rhetoric — yer stock-in-trade.

>>I've always thought this was exceptionally cruel and destructive.

Yer compassion is touching.

>>if the Democrats can convince a whole generation of people, that have no historical reference that this is how you grow market economies then we're screwed.

If Democrats can convince young voters to refuse to buy into the lies peddled by supporters of the SSE policies that have done so much damage to the economy over the past thirty-five years, we'll be a lot better off.
 
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Means little...guarantee you it will be revised downwards over the next few months.

Another of yer laughable and typically incorrect "guarantees."

>>the Household survey - which the U-3 is based on - showed only 67,000 newly employed. And only 23,000 newly employed since February (both seasonally adjusted). If you are going to give credence to the U-3, then you HAVE to give credence to the survey it is based on or you are a hypocrite on this. And the household survey says June was a lousy month for new employment.

Again, the household survey is a poor measure of employment. I won't say yer a hypocrite, but you are incapable of interpreting BLS data, and since this has been explained to you many times, that makes you a liar.

The 25-54 age range … employment-population ratio is 77.8...it was over 80 before the Great Recession.

That was a bubble high. Do we want another collapse like we had in 2008?

>>And (outside of during that recession), the present ratio is lower now then at any time since 1987

It hit 77.8% in Dec 1986, the first time it was that high since the series started in 1948. Are you saying the US economy was weak 1948-86?

You guys make it easy when all I need to do is C & P from a previous post.

There are 3.87 million unemployed 25-54, and 23.6 not in the labor force, a total of 27.47 million. (source)

There are 97.9 million Americans 25-54 (source), and 27.47 million of them (28%) are not working. But how many of the 23.6 million not in the labor force say they want a job? 858K, or 3.6%. There were 751K in Q1 2006 at the height of the housing bubble, which was 0.5% of the labor force. Last month's total is … 0.5%.​

>>I would hardly call that 'close to back to normal'.

As always, yer descriptions of the labor market are completely worthless.

The oldest of the Boomers turned 65 in 2011, and many are working until older ages.

A lot of people retire at sixty-two when they become eligible for Social Security. And with the ACA, you don't need to wait until yer 65 to be eligible for affordable health insurance.

When they qualify to receive unemployment, i'd think.

Ya mean after they're employed long enough and earn enough to be eligible, and then lose their job through no fault of their own?

Lol !!! I described and criticized the Lefts strategy of mitigating bad economic data for purely political purposes and here you are proving my point

How was that accomplished?

>>I thought Libs were supposed to be sympathetic to the struggle of the common man.

Well, yer correct about one thing then.

>>Nope, Libs perpetuate narratives that are based on the pretense that he doesn't exist. Like I said, its cruel

Liberals say the common man doesn't exist? Interesting.

>>Im sure there are some on the Left that would love to point to a vibrant and growing economy as a example of Obama's success, but your ideology doesn't produce growing, healthy market based economies.

Hey, ya got two things correct. Ideology doesn't produce a "vibrant and growing economy," effective economic policies do. We had that in the second half of the 1990s and we're now returning to that after Obummer cleaned up the second mess you SSE morons created.

>>It produces dependence, mediocrity, division and stagnation

14.8 million full-time, private-sector jobs and wages up ten percent since 2012. Deficit as a percentage of GDP down 75%. Very low inflation. Twenty million more Americans with health insurance.

>>you're forced to spread misinformation in the hopes that it will influence the naive because those are the only people that will listen to your marginalizations

Nah, that's yer job, the only one yer capable of.

>>the last 8 years of whats essentially base banana republic style propaganda spread by the Obama administration and their supporters

You have no facts to counter those posted by Obummer's LIIIIIIBRUL supporters. All you do is lie and lose.
 
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Ah, it's the old "labor participation rate" argument...by the SAME guy who I've shown before that the MAJOR reason that the labor participation rate went down is the retirement of the LAST cohort of the baby boomers. They called it the "Baby Boom" because there were a LOT of babies being born...and the boom ended when - wonder of wonders - people started having a lot fewer babies.

And when the Baby Boomers like myself retired, golly gee whiz y'all, there was a smaller percentage of the living population able or willing to work because that significant demographics called Baby Boomers had largely RETIRED.

But since this would mean that Fenton's right-wing echo-chamber information is wrong, well, ha-RUMPH, we can't have that! Why? Because liberals are out to destroy the world, don'tcha know?!? And Obama's a Kenyan Muslim under the control of a "Christian" preacher named Bill Ayers, too!

The Fed has already stated that the reason the LFPR is dropping is AT MOST only 50% due to retirements.

And many of those are because they cannot find a job and are forced to retire.

The excuse the Obamabots keep rolling out that it's far and away mostly due to natural retirements of the baby boomers is just not true.

You don't agree? Take it up with the Federal Reserve.


Good day.
 
Anyone living in the US has an equal chance of being included in the BLS employment surveys. I think around two thousand Syrian refugees have arrived in the US, about five thousand are awaiting resettlement, and another eight thousand are going through a security review. I don't think any of that will have much of an effect on the labor market.



How did he cook up 14.8 full-time, private-sector jobs added since Dec 2009? The unemployment rate has increased in fifteen of the last seventy-eight months. Was the WH kitchen closed during those months?



Real GDP grew at 1.76% during the Bush43 administration, which included a housing bubble and a collapse that could have caused a worldwide depression. Under Obummer, the economy has grown at an annual rate of … 1.76%.



Ya mean all those jobs that have been added, the drop in the deficit as a percentage of GDP from 10% to 2.4%, the very low inflation rate, the twenty million more Americans with health insurance? Or are all those "cooked" as well?

As others have noted, the drop in LFPR started at the turn of the century and is the result of a variety of demographic factors.



As has been noted, U-3 increased because 1,112,000 fewer Americans are reported as not in the labor force.



The revisions during the post-recession recovery have been largely upward. The direction of revisions typically takes that pattern — when employment is steadily expanding, revisions tend to be upward, and when it's contracting they tend to be downward.



The expectation of a Brexit is pushing the price of gold up. The strong jobs report caused it to drop briefly before it recovered. The spot price in New York closed Friday at $1,365.48, up $5.60, or 0.04%. Where's the "big gain"?

>>the markets did not buy the jobs report as an indicator of a recovering economy (and Fed rate raises). If they did, there is virtually no way precious metals would spike upwards

There was no "spike upwards."

>>according to the household survey (seasonally adjusted), there have only been 23,000 more Americans employed since February.

The household survey is not an effective measure of employment, but rather of the unemployment rate. You play this stupid game every month.




What bad economic data?

>>I assume the Democrat party's strategy here is to convince as many young people as possible that our current economy is comparable and even better than past economies under different Presidents because anyone who's old enough to have lived through the 70's, 80's and 90's knows better.

Ye mean like unemployment of more than seven percent from Jan 1981 to Oct 1986? Above eight percent for twenty-six months? Above nine percent for nineteen months? Above ten percent for ten months?

>>celebrating "97 months of straight jobs growth" minus any context

So let's hear yer "context"?

>>Unfortunately, those who support Obama seem to be more concerned with perpetuating a political narrative than offering up a thorough and accurate analysis

I'm all ears. Let's hear yer "thorough and accurate analysis."

>>ignoring the plight of tens millions of Americans who have struggled and continue to struggle under Obama's no growth policies.

Zero details. Worthless, empty rhetoric — yer stock-in-trade.

>>I've always thought this was exceptionally cruel and destructive.

Yer compassion is touching.

>>if the Democrats can convince a whole generation of people, that have no historical reference that this is how you grow market economies then we're screwed.

If Democrats can convince young voters to refuse to buy into the lies peddled by supporters of the SSE policies that have done so much damage to the economy over the past thirty-five years, we'll be a lot better off.


Lol....Sure, States like California are showing the rest of us how you grow market based economies

By chasing off their tax base and businesses to States that have relied on Supply side solutions to create new jobs.

States like Texas.

California lost 9,000 business HQs and expansions, mostly to Texas, seven-year study says - Austin Business Journal

Oh but SSE " doesn't work .

SSE doesn't create mass dependence, unsustainable debt and capital flight, all the things that people like you claim are good for this Nation.

So no its doesn't work for the Democrat party who's only hope is to create dependence, not jobs.
 
The Fed has already stated that the reason the LFPR is dropping is AT MOST only 50% due to retirements. And many of those are because they cannot find a job and are forced to retire.

If you look at the downward trend in LFPR over the its entire period (since Apr 2000), this is indeed the view of at least some of the Fed's researchers.

The authors conclude that just under half of the post-1999 decline in the U.S. labor force participation rate, or LFPR (the proportion of the working-age population that is employed or unemployed and seeking work), can be explained by long-running demographic patterns, such as the retirement of baby boomers. These patterns are expected to continue, offsetting LFPR improvements due to economic recovery. — "Explaining the decline in the U.S. labor force participation rate, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, Mar 2012"​

But if you look at the past four years, it's a different story.

Almost all of the decline (80 percent) in the participation rate since the first quarter of 2012 is accounted for by the increase in nonparticipation due to retirement. This implies that the decline in the unemployment rate since 2012 is not due to more discouraged workers dropping out of the labor force. — "On the Causes of Declines in the Labor Force Participation," Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, Feb 6, 2014​

>>The excuse the Obamabots keep rolling out that it's far and away mostly due to natural retirements of the baby boomers is just not true. You don't agree? Take it up with the Federal Reserve.

I just did. How do like the outcome?

The LFPR in the first few months of 2000 was 67.3%, and that's when the decline began. Over the last three quarters of 2007, it held steady at 66%. By Dec 2009, the combination of ongoing demographic trends and the effects of GOP SSE Great Recession had pushed it under 65%, and it continued to edge down to 64%. The Fed's research findings discussed here argue that the additional percentage point decline 2012-14 to 63% is largely (eighty percent) attributable to baby-boomer retirements.

Since early 2014, there has been a subsequent further drop to a level just below 63%, where it's basically held steady except for a dip last fall to 62.5%. Last month it was 62.7%. I haven't seen anything from the Fed analysing the reasons for this further dip, but my guess is it's increasing retirements, not problems with the labor market, which continues to do well.

Why would Obamabots be concerned about rolling out an excuse for the drop in LFPR between 2000 and 2012. For the first nine years of that thirteen-year span, the Negro wasn't living in the WH. In 2009, the economy was on life-support because the Right put it in the intensive care ward with a second round of SSE. It wasn't until the end of 2011 that we were finally able to shake off the effects of the 2008 collapse and get the unemployment rate down to around eight percent. Since then LFPR has been fairly steady, as it fights off the effects of continuing baby-boomer retirement with a strong labor market.

>>Good day.

Yeah, you too.
 
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