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FBI Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal [W:234, 1861]

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Risky Thicket said:
Get some balls, man up. Send a message to the system to kiss your ass. Or, you can continue to support the system you can't stand because the system doesn't respond to the People. You'll get what you've always gotten. And that is not throwing your vote away? How?
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Laws no longer matter in the country as long as your intent is not to break them.
Equal protection is now enforced by this decision by the fbi on this.

No longer can a state or federal government punish someone unless they can prove their intent.

We are now a lawless nation.

I did man up I wasn't going to vote for trump. Now I don't have such a hard time.
I think it is time to enforce the Declaration of Independence
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
I don't know. What I asked was to list the candidate who aren't corrupt. He may well be (the) one.
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Trump is corrupt. Hillary is corrupt. It is un-American to intentionally choose to put someone who is corrupt in the Oval Office. It's the height of insanity to do it enthusiastically. Wasn't that what I already said?
 
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JumpinJack said:
Well, I'm an independent who wanted to vote Republican this time. My opinion is that the email handling (WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE WAY COLIN POWELL AND CONDALEEZA RICE HANDLED STATE DEPT CONFIDENTIAL EMAILS) is not good, but not a deal breaker. That's how bad the alternative is. I'm not crazy about Clinton, but I haven't heard anything that makes me not vote for her in November.
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That says it exactly. Normally a jerk or a security risk couldnt be nominated, much less President. This year its tough to say which is worse, making people overlook such disqualifiers. Then again, I bet we'll see video of reporters asking people who is running for President, and they wont even know.
 
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Josie said:
What has he done to put our national security in jeopardy?
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Nothing compared to Clinton who was sending classified emails over insecure networks in enemy territory.
 
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tres borrachos said:
doG help this country. I am depressed.
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In order to combat my sadness associated with this election, I just start drinking. That's how I'm gonna get through this election season.
 
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ludin said:
Why not post the first 10 minutes where he negates all that bull**** by listing all
The evidence they found.
Ol yea uneducated liberals only read what they want to read.
Sure it was intentional as she kept doing it even after being told what she was doing was against
The law.
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Ritebackatcha, pups.


"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."
 
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Josie said:
What has he done to put our national security in jeopardy?
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He supported Hillary Clinton.
 
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ajn678 said:
He didn't overlook any law. Do you not understand how the law works? He said there was not enough concrete evidence to prove that she knowingly mishandled classified information on purpose. Therefore, because of the precedent in these cases, he said that no rational prosecutor would bring a case. The law that she broke has consistently been based upon knowingly and intentionally mishandling classified information. He said that while she broke the law, there was not evidence that she did so knowingly. This does not mean that she should not be indicted in a perfect world. It simply means that sometimes the prosecution does not have a good enough case for a sure conviction.

The same thing often happens in normal criminal charges. The prosecution often does not have enough evidence to get the conviction they want. Therefore, they either don't go forward, or they attempt to plea things down.
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When you posted the following
"I am not in Comey's position but I am not sure how this was not at least reckless handling of classified information. Which is also against the law. "
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I assumed that you knew what you were talking about.SADLY, I guess is was wrong.:(
 
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Fishking said:
Nope, just plain old negligence is enough to seal the deal.
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Obviously that is not true or the FBI would have acted differently. All the criminal statutes state "Willfully and knowingly" as a requirement.
 
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Frank Apisa said:
I understand your rage...and apparent hatred.

I also understand your need for hyperbole in your post.

Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States.

I say...GOOD.
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The only thing a Hillary Clinton presidency would be good for is Hillary Clinton. The rest of us are ****ed.
 
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Frank Apisa said:
Quite a rejoiner countryboy came up with.

How are you withstanding such a devastating attack? ;)
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I can't talk right now, I'm too upset! :lamo
 
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tres borrachos said:
Trump is corrupt. Hillary is corrupt. It is un-American to intentionally choose to put someone who is corrupt in the Oval Office. It's the height of insanity to do it enthusiastically. Wasn't that what I already said?
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It is also un-American to intentionally mold laws to meet your own needs.
 
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Allow me to accurately summarize James Comey's announcement:
- Hillary Clinton did send and receive classified and top secret emails to and from her server and them not being designated as classified was no excuse.
- Hillary and her people were extremely careless with the Country's security.
- The FBI couldn't conclude Hillary intentionally violated the Law but intent isn't necessary.
- Despite all that the FBI Director concluded he wouldn't recommend indictment because a responsible Prosecutor wouldn't prosecute even though the FBI did find the evidence.

The obvious question then is, under identical circumstances would Comey ever recommend indictment of anyone?
If "yes", then it sounds like her position, election year, and circumstances may have influenced his decision.
What other reasons could there be?

What a Country.
 
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TheGoverness said:
In order to combat my sadness associated with this election, I just start drinking. That's how I'm gonna get through this election season.
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Stopping January 20th or speeding up then?
 
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Quazimodo said:
It is also un-American to intentionally mold laws to meet your own needs.
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Actually, that is very American.

We were founded on that. Do you think the Founding Fathers wrote the Bill of Rights with black folks in mind?
 
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iguanaman said:
Obviously that is not true or the FBI would have acted differently. All the criminal statutes state "Willfully and knowingly" as a requirement.
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Wrong.
Or to put it another way, without actually using your screen name Comey said you were wrong.
 
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hillary too dumb to know what she does.. cannot be charged with a crime.. where is her white jacket to keep her off the streets?
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Poor Republicans...... It was their only hope of actually winning this November. If only they had been smart enough to go with a candidate that's actually electable rather than spending the last 2 decades hatemongering and appealing to every nutjob in the country....
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Your myopia is right out there in front for all of us to see. It's not only Republicans, it's poor Americans. We all lose by putting her in office!

I expected nothing more from this. There is a political and oligarchy elite -- and then the rest of us serfs. It is tyranny.

countryboy said:
It's should disappoint any red blooded American.
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Some of these people are unAmerican.

iguanaman said:
The law states "Whoever knowingly and willfully … [discloses] or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety and interest of the United States [certain categories of classified information] … shall be fined … or imprisoned.”

If the "knowingly and willfully" is unprovable there was no violation. Do you realize you literally asking to change a law to target a specific individual?
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Un-provable doesn't mean exonerated.

If this was for an FBI security clearance, she would never get one!

I fully disagree with Comey, as does the NYC Chief prosecutor, about any prosecutor wouldn't take the case. They would! It's a whitewash!

Bottom line....when confronted with her criminal action, she misled the American people.....just like Bill did when he waved his finger on National TV and lied his ass off!
 
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Quazimodo said:
It is also un-American to intentionally mold laws to meet your own needs.
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Agreed. But that doesn't change what I said. It's un-American to support the person who does that.
 
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Lets not forget this. Hillarys lawyers destroyed evidence.

It is also likely that there are other work-related e-mails that they did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere, and that are now gone because they deleted all e-mails they did not return to State, and the lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery.
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https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...lary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

and worse:
In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.
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She basically took known classified info out into public.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Actually, that is very American.

We were founded on that. Do you think the Founding Fathers wrote the Bill of Rights with black folks in mind?
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Actually, they did write the Bill of Rights with black folks in mind. They regarded black folks as property.
 
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now hillary and her voters can be charged too dumb to let out on the streets.... where are the straight jackets
 
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iguanaman said:
And I gave you a direct quote from the law that says intent is required.



Why Hillary Won't Be Indicted and Shouldn't Be: An Objective Legal Analysis
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I guess you don't realize there are other sections that she could be charged with.

18 USC Section 793:

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

She clearly through gross negligence allowed information to be removed from the secure system that the government set up and stored on her own private server that was not set up for this data. Try again Hill Shill.
 
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Frank Apisa said:
I understand your rage...and apparent hatred.

I also understand your need for hyperbole in your post.
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What I said is not hyperbole or rage.She is a former first lady and very high up in the political world.Anyone who thought she would get in any serious trouble were deluding themselves. We all know she is guilty of using her personal email for classified use and had it been me or you in that situation we would be someone's girlfriend in prison right now.

Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States.

I say...GOOD.
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The republicans practically gift wrapped and handed the presidency over to Clinton the second they nominated Trump. Hopefully she is only a one term president and the republicans wise up by not allowing another flip flopping RINO to run in the republican party for president.
 
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