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Supreme Court rejects pharmacists' religious rights appeal

countryboy said:
Not wanting to participate in abortion, is not " forcing your religion on others".
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You take a job, you have a job description. You do the job, or you quit, or get a new job, or get fired.

I had to deal once with a flight attendant who refused to serve alcohol on her flights.

Too bad. Its in your job description. You sign off on day one.
 
ajn678 said:
Okay, well I believe that I should refuse fat people from buying chips. It leads to heart disease and other health issues.
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And I believe that, since a family in the store disagrees with my religious beliefs, that I have the right not to sell them food. LOL.
 
ajn678 said:
You aren't participating in abortion, in the same way that scanning alcohol and checking someone out isn't particpating in getting drunk.
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You don't get to decide the conscience of others.

The First Amendment doesn't read "....or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, as long as it doesn't inconvenience anyone". :roll:
 
countryboy said:
Not wanting to participate in abortion does not make one a "religious extremist".
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You aren't participating in abortion. You are fulfilling your duty as the store worker to sell the item that your store stocks. If you have a problem take it up with the store you work for.
 
Henrin said:
Yes, which violates the right to ones labor, property rights, the right to association, and in some cases free speech.
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Horse crap. You choose to join the secular world and work in a secular environment, you play by those rules. You want to work for an exempt organization? Fine. File your business that way and be done with it.
 
ajn678 said:
Okay, well I believe that I should refuse fat people from buying chips. It leads to heart disease and other health issues.
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It's your business.
 
domer76 said:
Horse crap. You choose to join the secular world and work in a secular environment, you play by those rules. You want to work for an exempt organization? Fine. File your business that way and be done with it.
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:roll: You know, the license excuse doesn't somehow get you past supporting a law that violates the constitutional rights of people.
 
countryboy said:
You don't get to decide the conscience of others.

The First Amendment doesn't read "....or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, as long as it doesn't inconvenience anyone". :roll:
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This has nothing to do with the First Amendment.
 
countryboy said:
You don't get to decide the conscience of others.

The First Amendment doesn't read "....or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, as long as it doesn't inconvenience anyone". :roll:
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I know, they had to go to another store. The horror! I wonder what they think when the store is closed.
 
Henrin said:
:roll: You know, the license excuse doesn't somehow get you past supporting a law that violates the constitutional rights of people.
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You lost this one, pally boy. Just exactly how you've lost the myriad of other cases and will continue to do so. File as a church pharmacy or shut up.
 
Henrin said:
I know, they had to go to another store. The horror! I wonder what they think when the store is closed.
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I foresee a future where doctors will be forced to perform abortions or find another line of work. It's coming. You know what else is coming? Civil War II. ;)
 
domer76 said:
You lost this one, pally boy. Just exactly how you've lost the myriad of other cases and will continue to do so. File as a church pharmacy or shut up.
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And yet the court can't make a case without coming up with stupid ideas like "the thirteenth amendment only deals with conditions found in black slavery" when rejecting an argument by a man that was being forced to serve others.

I wonder if black slaves were forced to serve anyone. :cool: :lamo
 
countryboy said:
I foresee a future where doctors will be forced to perform abortions or find another line of work. It's coming. You know what else is coming? Civil War II. ;)
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Just like the heart doctors are being forced to do brain surgery right?
 
Henrin said:
And yet the court can't make a case without coming up with stupid ideas like "the thirteenth amendment only deals with conditions found in black slavery" when rejecting an argument by a man that was being forced to serve others. :lamo
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Ya' lost. Go cry your river elsewhere.
 
domer76 said:
Horse crap. You choose to join the secular world and work in a secular environment, you play by those rules. You want to work for an exempt organization? Fine. File your business that way and be done with it.
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I see. So freedom of religion is only protected within religious organizations? You wanna show me where the Constitution stipulates this?
 
Kiwimac said:
Then the store is wrong. You have the right to hold religious beliefs, you do not have the right to enforce them on another.
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You mean people don't have the right to refuse to provide someone their labor, property, and association due to their religious beliefs.
 
countryboy said:
I see. So freedom of religion is only protected within religious organizations? You wanna show me where the Constitution stipulates this?
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:popcorn2: This is going to be good.
 
domer76 said:
Ya' lost. Go cry your river elsewhere.
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Have you ever actually read the bogus reasoning the courts put out in Heart of Atlanta Motel v. United States?

Hint: I already mocked it.
 
Henrin said:
You mean people don't have the right to refuse to provide someone their labor, property, and association due to their religious beliefs.
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When YOU choose freely to work in an industry that, in the ordinary course of a day's duties, provides services that you disagree with, you do not get to withhold your labour simply because of those duties as you VOLUNTARILY chose that industry in which to work and you VOLUNTARILY agreed that your rights do not abrogate the needs of others.
 
countryboy said:
I see. So freedom of religion is only protected within religious organizations? You wanna show me where the Constitution stipulates this?
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Employers are only required to make religious accommodations insofar as they are reasonable. It is not reasonable to allow employees to refuse to dispense medications on the grounds that they have personal religious qualms about their use.
 
Kiwimac said:
When YOU choose freely to work in an industry that, in the ordinary course of a day's duties, provides services that you disagree with, you do not get to withhold your labour simply because of those duties as you VOLUNTARILY chose that industry in which to work and you VOLUNTARILY agreed that your rights do not abrogate the needs of others.
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You are aware that plan B is not something people need, right? You are aware that if the business doesn't like the person denying service to people they can fire them, right?

Regardless, your argument means nothing to me. The government made the choice to provide the first amendment, the thirteenth amendment and few amendments protecting property well before these laws ever came to pass.
 
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