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Justices, Seeking Compromise, Return Contraception Case to Lower Courts

Right, they just added dozens of amendments, including the one I told you about wherein you couldn't be arrested for failing to pay the tax penalty. A detail you thought was highly significant, and it turns out you had it wrong.

Additionally, during the bill's development Republicans brought up that "if Obamacare is so good why doesn't Congress have to use it?" silliness. Democrats responded "hey, you're right" and required Congress to purchase insurance through the exchange.

And somehow that never stopped right-wingers from, to this day, claiming that Congress is exempt from the ACA when they are explicitly the opposite.

Doesn't it make you wonder how many other details you have wrong? You don't need to answer here, but a self-assessment question: how long did you believe "death panels" were a thing?

Why did the democrats remove the death panels if they didn't exist?

No, this disaster is entirely at the feet of the Democrats. Not a single Republican voted for the law, in either house. That little detail, I got correct.
 
I get a tax break for having children, you could say because I don't have children I am taxed more. This doesn't make children "mandatory." I have a choice.

But like I said, this is arguing over semantics and I don't see the importance. I think under our current system, people who can afford insurance but choose not to purchase it should be made to chip into the pot. Otherwise they inevitably get sick and end up dumping the cost onto the rest of us. This way, the would-be freeloaders at least have some skin in the game.

You don't get taxes more if you don't have kids. You do get taxes more if you don't purchase insurance. You got a tax credit, not a break. There's a difference.
 
The point is, there's also a penalty for not meeting the Obamacare mandate.


Yep. You pay. The point that you seem to be missing is that you have a choice of the two. You are not forced to buy the insurance, which you are claiming.
 
Most people don't know what the ACA is. They talk about buying "Obamacare" as if it were an insurance policy. They think it's a sort of single payer insurance, as exists in the rest of the world.

Do you think that people without insurance, the ones we pay for when they go to the ER, should defray the costs?
Or should we support freeloaders?

Do you think people with pre existing conditions should be excluded from having health insurance?

Do you think kids under 26 are likely to have a job that provides health insurance?

Have costs soared as a result of the ACA? (Hint: They've been soaring since before anyone even heard of Barack Obama).
 
Yep. You pay. The point that you seem to be missing is that you have a choice of the two. You are not forced to buy the insurance, which you are claiming.

But, we don't have a choice of what we pay for. I don't choose to pay for abortion, or birth control. Most people didn't get to keep their plans,
 
Why did the democrats remove the death panels if they didn't exist?

No, this disaster is entirely at the feet of the Democrats. Not a single Republican voted for the law, in either house. That little detail, I got correct.
Hahahahahah he still thinks there were death panels!

Can you even describe the death panels that were supposedly removed? How they would have gone about determining my death?
 
In Canada our limit is 75 years of age at which point justices must retire. Though for our court it means we will not see a lot of retiring till the 2030s.

That is not right. You keep the best of the best until they willingly retire, or they become a liability.

Some of the sharpest people I know are over 80-85 years old, and I often lean on the for their experience.
 
That is not right. You keep the best of the best until they willingly retire, or they become a liability.

Some of the sharpest people I know are over 80-85 years old, and I often lean on the for their experience.

Usually at that point they have been serving on the court for 20-30 years, at that point the court needs new blood, new opinions, new points of view. All federal judges are required to retire at that age and the Supreme Court is no exception. We also have geographic restrictions on our judges.
 
But, we don't have a choice of what we pay for. I don't choose to pay for abortion, or birth control. Most people didn't get to keep their plans,

Then don't frikkin' pay for a policy!
 
Why did the democrats remove the death panels if they didn't exist?

No, this disaster is entirely at the feet of the Democrats. Not a single Republican voted for the law, in either house. That little detail, I got correct.

Republicans haven't supported anything that Obama has advocated. Their goal, which we now know they failed to reach, was to make him a one term president. Their objective was to do what is best for the party, and to hell with the needs of the country. Now, Republicans are saying that they won't even hold a hearing on any of his supreme court nominees, regardless of who it is. Now, their partisan tripe is coming to fruition with the candidacy of one Donald Trump.

and some of the party hierarchy is actually willing to hold their collective noses and (sort of ) support Trump since he is now calling himself a Republican.

As those of us who have been paying attention know he is not really a Republican, but nonetheless they're willing to support the Nothillary candidate because of party loyalty.

Washington was right: Political parties are a bane to democracy.
 
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