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Obama orders public schools to allow transgendered to use bathroom of choice

soot said:
Makes all the sense in the world.

Tax the ever loving **** out of people, and then hold their money hostage unless they do exactly what one Imperial President tells them to do.

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The revolution can't come soon enough.
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The imaginary revolution? The one that despite claiming to make the world a better place will actually **** it up even more the it already is?
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I'm supporting 5 year olds going to the bathroom by themselves?:lol:
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If you support the laws some states are passing or considering then Yes, You Are supporting that, too deep for you?
 
Casper said:
If you support the laws some states are passing or considering then Yes, You Are supporting that, too deep for you?
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Enough with the snark.

The thread is about the legality of the order issued by the administration. If you don't understand why that is an important question to ask then just move on.
 
soot said:
Makes all the sense in the world.

Tax the ever loving **** out of people, and then hold their money hostage unless they do exactly what one Imperial President tells them to do.

:roll:

The revolution can't come soon enough.
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Given that individual states raise varying degrees of dollars, the distribution of dollars at the federal level more often than not helps states than merely redistributes the funds to them with strings attached. Furthermore, the benefits accrued to the students cannot be underestimated. In the past several decades, the quality of education has increased for numerous populations due to efforts at the federal level. States may have passed laws declaring they would do X, Y, or Z, but the enforcement was lackluster, sometimes unions (who are most powerful at the state and local level) quashed reform, and so on. With the force of the federal government, for instance, peoples like me were able to be given an equitable education (allowed to stay within my community no less) and become a highly educated and productive member of society.

You may want your revolution, but I fear this is out of ignorance rather than actual righteousness.
 
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legalimmigrant said:
Not counting today, how many days till this a****** will be forced to vacate the premises?
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Don't worry, you will be able to vote him out of office here in about 9 months.

:lamo
 
I can see just visualize women using the men's restrooms at entertainment venues where there just aren't enough women's bathrooms. Then that crowds out the men, and then we have to pee over the fence.

As Confucius says, "One problem begats another."
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I have an 8 year old daughter and she is constantly referring to things as either "for boys" or "for girls".

This wasn't the point of the thread, though. I was curious to get peoples opinions on whether or not the administration has the authority to force schools to comply with their interpretation of civil rights laws.
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Only via due process because, while the executive can bring charges, the executive can't find you guilty of those charges. Of course, the IRS seems to enjoy an exception to that rule.
 
And this is the kind of thing liberals are doing that cause the division in the country to get worse. Of course I'm opposed to this and of course many of people all over the country are opposed to this, but liberals like Obama don't care.
 
Casper said:
Yes they do have the authority, did you miss WHY gay marriage became the law of the land, clue: it is because the Government (Federal/State/Local) Cannot discriminate. Either comply or lose funding, period.
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Gay marriage isn't the law of their land. The Supreme Court can't make law. Just like the Feds don't have the authority to pull this bull****.
 
Casper said:
The President has such authority, you seem to forget that the President controls the government school system (Dept of Education), must drive you crazy(er).
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So lets get rid of that authority since he clearly can't keep himself under control with it.
 
Casper said:
Yes they do have the authority, did you miss WHY gay marriage became the law of the land, clue: it is because the Government (Federal/State/Local) Cannot discriminate. Either comply or lose funding, period.
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Blackmail! Do you even realize you're supporting blackmail? Lol.
 
"Allow" is the wrong word. He orders everyone, take it or leave it.
I am with the OP, we are perfectly capable of peeing next to each other, but I do get darn stubborn if someone who thinks too highly of himself orders me to do anything.
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or what, Mr. President? Piss off millions of people because you, once again, think you have been crowned king?
Stay out of it.
 
Casper said:
Yes they do have the authority, did you miss WHY gay marriage became the law of the land, clue: it is because the Government (Federal/State/Local) Cannot discriminate. Either comply or lose funding, period.
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How are gender specific facilities not discriminatory in the first place? Separate but equal has been declared unconstitutional when concerning race but appears to be just peachy for gender. Just label the restrooms (and locker rooms) US and THEM and let everyone decide which they prefer to be that day. ;)
 
Cyrylek said:
Generally, I am sympathetic with the LGBT folks. On the "bathroom issue", the privacy concerns are legitimate, but they can be addressed by re-designing the restrooms to provide individual entrances/screens for everyone, no need to make it a part of the "cultural war". However, the Administration's involvement seems to be very heavy-handed, and this is going to backfire.
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I'm not particularly thrilled with the federal government ordering the redesign of the whole world to accommodate a very few who somehow get their feelings hurt over every issue.
 
David_N said:
Well, the admin. does have the authority. I mean, they just did it.
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All that they have done so far is issue an order.

Let's wait and see what happens when they meet resistance and have to enforce that order.

That's when this will get interesting.
 
soot said:
It's a shame when you have to look forward to a Donald Trump presidency in order to get some sane and substantial policy coming out of the Oval Office.

And don't get me wrong here, I'm not suggesting that Trump is some great statesman...
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Wait...Trump is a populist and this is a position that is transitioning towards a majority support amongst the population. So Trump is probably going to support this position (or rather, he will disagree with it publicly and then shift his position in a couple of months).
 
soot said:
Makes all the sense in the world.

Tax the ever loving **** out of people, and then hold their money hostage unless they do exactly what one Imperial President tells them to do.

The revolution can't come soon enough.
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What revolution? Trump has shifted his positions so much and so quickly that neither you nor I have any clue what he would support.

Edit: I will also note that the only reason that these schools are able to provide quality education is because of the taxes.
 
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MrT said:
Wait...Trump is a populist and this is a position that is transitioning towards a majority support amongst the population. So Trump is probably going to support this position (or rather, he will disagree with it publicly and then shift his position in a couple of months).
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That's interesting. So lets some polls from ALL over the country that support that. Remember this is the federal government that is acting, not California.
 
MrT said:
They do interpret and execute the laws though.
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And that was my point all along.

The administration has interpreted that limiting bathroom access to a persons birth gender is discriminatory and, under the force of law, has ordered that interpretation be accepted. I am questioning their legal authority to do so.
 
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