28 ISIL militants killed in Turkish, coalition operations in Syria

treehouse said:

I have done, but will do again.

In return, will you please explain me what the difference is between ISIL, PKK and USA?

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That's even more stupid then your first question. Which is really saying something.

ISIS is a Salafi/Wahabbist terrorist group. The PKK is a left wing Kurdish nationalist terrorist group. The United States is a democracy. Which, by the way, has supplied Turkey with arms and money for years.

treehouse said:

Proving is the easy part, but to break ignorance is the hard part as in your conclusion without asking me to prove.

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:shrug: I'm sure you could link to youtube altmedia whatevers' or Iranian propaganda. It remains a delusional conspiracy theory.



Your Al-Jazeera clip with General Flynn is hilarious. What he's saying is that the US Intelligence Community saw that ISIL might become big, and that policy makers didn't react to that. :shrug: Your own source states that the US didn't support ISIL, but rather that the Administration decided not to do anything about it.

treehouse said:

I have done, but will do again.

In return, will you please explain me what the difference is between ISIL, PKK and USA?

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Guy, the others on this thread have already eviscerated your claims. I have no need to replicate their work.

I suggest that you strive to learn to separate your emotions and your perceptions. You seem to feel passionately about your claims...but you've got nothing concrete to back them up. Your claims remind me of those who blindly defend Israel and ignore the crimes they've committed, the part that they've directly played in continuing their conflict with the Palestinians. What's more, the others are using your own reference to point out the errors that should have been obvious to you before you posted the OP.

If you really want to be in a position to judge right from wrong, you must learn to be truly objective, to go where the actual facts lead...and to have enough courage to acknowledge when the facts are telling you something you don't want to believe. It's not easy - I know the path all too well - but it's well worth the effort.

A fact-finding mission to northern Syria has uncovered a wave of forced displacement and home demolitions amounting to war crimes carried out by the Autonomous Administration led by the Syrian Kurdish political party Partiya Yekîtiya Demokrat (PYD) controlling the area, said Amnesty International in a report published today. The Autonomous Administration is a key ally, on the ground, of the US-led coalition fighting against the armed group calling itself the Islamic State (IS) in Syria.

Some civilians said they were threatened with US-led coalition airstrikes if they failed to leave.


The images show 225 buildings standing in June 2014 but only 14 remaining in June 2015 – a shocking reduction of 93.8%.



“They pulled us out of our homes and began burning the home… they brought the bulldozers... They demolished home after home until the entire village was destroyed,” said one witness.



“They told us we had to leave or they would tell the US coalition that we were terrorists and their planes would hit us and our families,” said one resident, Safwan.




https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde24/2503/2015/en/
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- YPG forces, (the armed wing of the PYD party), established the Kurdish Self-Management Forces which was announced in January 2014 and seized control over some regions in north and east of Syria

-SNHR documented several ethnic cleansing massacres which were committed by the Kurdish Democratic Union Party forces in towns which were mostly inhibited by Arabs. Amongst these massacres, we recorded 3 ethnic cleansing massacres in Al Hassaka governorate which resulted in the death of 91 civilians including 17 children and 7 women.

-PYD Forces arbitrarily arrested no fewer than 1,651 people in different parts of Al-Hasakah.
-Stating that more than 16 individuals were tortured by PYD forces, the report said a local media activist was executed in front of his family on July 15, 2014.

-44-year old woman killed along with her 6 children

-88 women, 34 of them being girls under the age of 18, have been kidnapped by YPG between January 2014 and October 2015.

-at least 51 children were reportedly killed by PYD forces as a result of random shelling or sniping until the end of 2015. 111 children were subject to arbitrary arrest and 1,876 children were forcibly recruited until November 20, 2015

-nearly 100 Turkmen families were subjected to violence, injustice and oppression in Al-Hasakah

The report also includes videos and photos evidencing the human rights violations committed by PYD.


The Most Significant Human Rights Violations by Kurdish Democratic Union Party and the Kurdish Self-Management Forces - Syrian Network For Human Rights

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There are tonnes of weapons and ammunitions sent by USA along with training.

The ICC and ECHR is waiting for those who support those terrorists.

Glen Contrarian said:

Guy, the others on this thread have already eviscerated your claims. I have no need to replicate their work.

I suggest that you strive to learn to separate your emotions and your perceptions. You seem to feel passionately about your claims...but you've got nothing concrete to back them up. Your claims remind me of those who blindly defend Israel and ignore the crimes they've committed, the part that they've directly played in continuing their conflict with the Palestinians. What's more, the others are using your own reference to point out the errors that should have been obvious to you before you posted the OP.

If you really want to be in a position to judge right from wrong, you must learn to be truly objective, to go where the actual facts lead...and to have enough courage to acknowledge when the facts are telling you something you don't want to believe. It's not easy - I know the path all too well - but it's well worth the effort.

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No they have not; ATT and Vienna Convention part have not been debated yet, The difference between ISIL, PKK and USA has not been explained yet, The ICC and ECHR part have not debated yet.

They cannot even see the difference between an ethnic group and a terrorist organisation, so i do not hold my breath for those whom you trust.

treehouse said:

No they have not; ATT and Vienna Convention part have not been debated yet, The difference between ISIL, PKK and USA has not been explained yet, The ICC and ECHR part have not debated yet.

They cannot even see the difference between an ethnic group and a terrorist organisation, so i do not hold my breath for those whom you trust.

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Jesus Christ. I've already answered your dumb question on what the difference is three or four times. Your not looking for a debate---your looking for an echo chamber.