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GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin[W:106:124]

Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

What you would do is relevant, because you would know whether doing such a thing would qualify as utter lunacy. And no, your link did not demonstrate that anybody actually wanted to give a murderer $5000. Sure, some random internet person suggested that someone else do it, but sure as hell nobody came forward to make that offer themselves. Because just as you wouldn't give a known murderer $5000, neither would anyone else.
This is you living in that dream world you spoke of.

No, what I would do is not relevant.


Again.


It was already reported that an individual on twitter implored a black celebrity to buy it and destroy it.

That would be an indication that the person desired to do the same if they could afford it.


So you would be incorrect

That is an indication regardless of what you want to absurdly believe.
 
Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

Ah, but in America if you're not proven guilty, then you are innocent.

Some seem to buy that nonsense.
 
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Just a thought. Maybe Zimm should be careful about what he says or does in relation to this case, what would stop some gangbangers from taken offence and buying the gun from him then using it on him. Think of the irony, it would be wrong but many would not shed any tears for Zimm.
 
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Innocence doesn't have to be proved....guilt does. No nonsense to it.

Silly, you are judeged to be Not Guilty, not Innocent. Have you heard of any of those I listed as being found not guilty, do you believe any one of the six are "Innocent"? Go do some reading on the topic and get back with us..................

Oh, and if you think you do not have to prove you are innocent if charged and put on trial you have never been there or attended a trial, only a fool would just sit back and not do all that you could to prove your innocence
 
Re: George Zimmerman auctions gun...

Claiming the gun is a piece of Americana is insulting to most Americans. He called it "A piece of American History" and an "American Firearm Icon".
It is.


He also (falsely) claimed the Smithsonian was interested in acquiring and displaying the gun, attempting to overstate (fabricate) and verify the guns historical significance.
Stop. The video says that Zimmerman said that many have told him it should be in the Smithsonian. So there may have been some misreporting somewhere.

Secondly, if the quotes are true and accurate: The Smithsonian denying the claim does not mean that someone from the Smithsonian, unauthorized or not, did not unofficially make an inquiry.
Nor does it mean that someone may have misrepresented their self to Zimmerman.


He's trying to convert his fame into a pay day, which is despicable given the circumstances. It's just another bit of evidence that the man is a piece of trash.
Stop with the irrational assumptions and opinions.
No it is not despicable and neither is donating some of the proceeds to cause.


The court made their dicision,
Actually it was the Jury who decided he was "Not Guilty".


But given the evidence, it was a tough call, if one were to remain unbiased and just look at what was presented in court.
Oy vey!
But given the evidence? A tough call?
Wut?
Given the evidence, he shouldn't even have been charged. It was the unbiased that saw that. The biased wanted him charged and convicted even thought the evidence did not support such.
 
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... you are judeged to be Not Guilty, not Innocent.
Correct. He was declared "Not Guilty" by a Jury of his Peers, and the law is "Innocent until proven guilty".

And in a Court of Law, a person is presumed to be innocent until guilt is proven.
 
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Looks like it's been removed.

Those DAMN communists and statists, how DARE they infringe on the freedom of a true patriot to exercise his right to free speach and lawful commerce!!??
(insert sarcasm emoji here)
 
Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

Nope they said it was not proven, they did not say he was innocent, do you know the difference?

If the court says that a murder charge can't be proved, then it seems to me that means they are saying the accused isn't a "known murderer".

Or putting it another way, what does "known murderer" mean if it doesn't mean "someone convicted of murder by a court"?
 
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Although this wasn't directed toward me, I'll just say that I've managed to avoid being arrested for aggravated assault and domestic abuse my entire life. Mr. Zimmerman has had three run-ins with the police since he killed Martin: a felony aggravated assault in 2013, road rage in 2014, and an aggravated assault and domestic abuse charge in 2015. So what do I know about his character? Let's just say that the boy could use some anger management classes. I think that ultimately prison will be a fine place for a gentleman like Mr. Zimmerman. It's where people with poor impulse control tend to end up.

George Zimmerman charged with aggravated assault at girlfriend's home - CNN.com
Zimmerman arrested for alleged aggravated assault - CNN.com
George Zimmerman named in 911 road rage call

Well, We know for sure that the aggravated assault was bull**** and it was demonstrated as such and an unconfirmed 911 call? Is that really what you're going with? How about some better documented and provable things?

George Zimmerman helps rescue family from car wreck

George Zimmerman, the man whose acquittal on murder and manslaughter charges in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin set off a wave of protests across the nation, helped rescue a family from an overturned SUV four days after the verdict, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement Monday.

The statement said that on Wednesday, at approximately 5:45 p.m. ET, the sheriff's office responded to a single car accident at an intersection in the Sanford, Fla., area not far from where Zimmerman, 29, shot Trayvon, 17, in February 2012. The statement said a blue Ford Explorer had run off the road and rolled over with a family of four inside.

When a deputy arrived at the scene, two men had already helped the family out of the SUV. One of the men was Zimmerman, a former neighborhood watch coordinator in Sanford.

Or how about this?

In 2010 race-related beating case, George Zimmerman pushed to discipline same officers who investigated Trayvon Martin shooting | The Daily Caller
 
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Not Guilty Verdicts:
OJ, Robert Blake, Richard James Herrin, Robert Durst, Cullen Davis, or Isaac Turnbaugh
Are they Innocent?
Really?
 
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Silly, you are judeged to be Not Guilty, not Innocent. Have you heard of any of those I listed as being found not guilty, do you believe any one of the six are "Innocent"? Go do some reading on the topic and get back with us..................

Oh, and if you think you do not have to prove you are innocent if charged and put on trial you have never been there or attended a trial, only a fool would just sit back and not do all that you could to prove your innocence


Semantics. If you are not guilty then you are LEGALLY innocent.
 
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Not Guilty Verdicts:
OJ, Robert Blake, Richard James Herrin, Robert Durst, Cullen Davis, or Isaac Turnbaugh
Are they Innocent?
Really?

Can you prove they are not?

Really?
 
Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

Well, We know for sure that the aggravated assault was bull**** and it was demonstrated as such and an unconfirmed 911 call? Is that really what you're going with? How about some better documented and provable things?

George Zimmerman helps rescue family from car wreck



Or how about this?

In 2010 race-related beating case, George Zimmerman pushed to discipline same officers who investigated Trayvon Martin shooting | The Daily Caller

There is a lot of doubt about what Zimm did or did not do in the accident incident.

He does not like cops, his refusal to follow their orders was proof of that.
 
Re: George Zimmerman auctions gun...

It would have been interesting to see how much it would have sold for if the auction was allowed to continue.

Yes GZ is, was and always will be a dirt-bag, but even dirt-bags have the Constitutional Guaranteed Right to protect themselves from other low-life dirt-bags.
 
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Can you prove they are not?

Really?

Read more, get back to us when you are better informed.
 
Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

There is a lot of doubt about what Zimm did or did not do in the accident incident.

He does not like cops, his refusal to follow their orders was proof of that.

No credible doubt exists.
 
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Now back to topic, not whether Zimmis Not Guilty or Innocent, do you think it is the right thing to do for him to sell the gun publically for big bucks? No need for some of you to answer we already know the answer, you are more than cool with it.
 
Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

Just a thought. Maybe Zimm should be careful about what he says or does in relation to this case, what would stop some gangbangers from taken offence and buying the gun from him then using it on him. Think of the irony, it would be wrong but many would not shed any tears for Zimm.

Trust me, there are enough people that want to kill him, already.
 
Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

There is a lot of doubt about what Zimm did or did not do in the accident incident.

He does not like cops, his refusal to follow their orders was proof of that.

This post is factually incorrect. Zimmerman actually did like police. He had an ongoing relationship with them. In addition, to say that the police gave him any orders is a lie. It's something often repeated by those who hated him. The dispatcher who was not a commissioned officer told him, "We don't need you to do that." That is a far cry from an order.
 
Re: George Zimmerman auctions gun...

Stop. The video says that Zimmerman said that many have told him it should be in the Smithsonian. So there may have been some misreporting somewhere.

Secondly, if the quotes are true and accurate: The Smithsonian denying the claim does not mean that someone from the Smithsonian, unauthorized or not, did not unofficially make an inquiry.
Nor does it mean that someone may have misrepresented their self to Zimmerman.

Eh, I have a hard time believing anyone from the Smithsonian would make the mistake of thinking this gun is even remotely historically significant, never mind enough to possibly make it into one of their displays. I certainly don't have anything to rule out the possibility, but conceptually, its laughable.

Stop with the irrational assumptions and opinions.
No it is not despicable and neither is donating some of the proceeds to cause.

This is the gun used to kill a young man. Granted he may have not been completely innocent, but he didn't deserve to die. Making this gun out to be something special is celebrating the killing of this young man. Even if it was in self defense, that is still despicable.

Actually it was the Jury who decided he was "Not Guilty".

Figure of speech..... and aren't they technically part of the court once sworn in?

Oy vey!
But given the evidence? A tough call?
Wut?
Given the evidence, he shouldn't even have been charged. It was the unbiased that saw that. The biased wanted him charged and convicted even thought the evidence did not support such.

I'm not going to open that whole can of worms again. We all have our opinions, and there will always be some uncertainty as to the details. Personally, I find it had to believe this man, with a gun, had no other alternative besides killing to preserve his own safety. Add that to Zimmerman's other media worthy actions and (in my opinion) the man is no better than liquid excrement.
 
Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

Now back to topic, not whether Zimmis Not Guilty or Innocent, do you think it is the right thing to do for him to sell the gun publically for big bucks? No need for some of you to answer we already know the answer, you are more than cool with it.

I have no problem with him selling the weapon. I would also have no problem with OJ selling the knife.
 
Re: GZ auctioning gun used in killing of Trayvon Martin

It's all moot since the auction house has a conscience and withdrew the execution instrument from sale.
 
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